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Old 03-12-2008, 06:56 AM
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Lightbulb I think I've figured out why this game isn't canon... *spoilers*

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The ending of the game shows Elliot back on the beach just after the plane crashed with Lisa being alive. As we know before, she wasn't alive, however somehow Elliot must have caused a shift in the timeline (perhaps this is linked to all those "do you believe in fate?" questions) and changed the past, meaning some aspects of Elliot's past have changed: he never sacrificed Lisa.

By changing his past, not only did Lisa's death not happen, but other events of the game which don't fit with show's canon ALSO didn't happen. The fact that the game isn't canon is because Elliot changed his past. Meaning the ending we see in the game is in fact the beginning of the show we've been watching.

Which begs the question: how did Elliot change his past/fate? Perhaps it could be down to what happens in the Black Rock. Here, Elliot is supposed to take his compass and sacrifice Jack and Kate to get home because that's the kind of person he's supposed to be (signified by the fact that he sacrificed Lisa for his own personal gain). However, he changes his fate by doing exactly the opposite of what he's supposed to do, and that is sacrifice his own safety to save Jack and Kate. By sacrificing himself he skews the timeline and reboots the events of game to what we see on the show.

Thoughts? Does this theory have potential? Or am I just being dumb?
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:56 AM
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So I want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly.

You're basically saying that the game events (including all the show events happening around it) sort of happen a certain way...but then due to Elliot sort of timetravelling and rebooting everything, he erases all of the events of the game, and then begins the events of the show.

If that's the case then I guess the game could be canon because it wouldn't matter since he erased it.
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Old 03-12-2008, 04:01 PM
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After I finished it, I had similar thoughts. I was disappointed with the game in general, so after giving it a few minute's thought, I put it out of my mind.

I don't know if it then leads into the show's timeline, but that would be kind of cool. It's hard to say, though, since Elliot and Lisa aren't known to be on the show.

OK, as I said, I hadn't spent much time thinking about it, so I may have huge hole in logic here.

I was thinking it was some type of redemption, as you say. I also thought that the choice at the Black Rock was what might have done it. It's not time-travel, since you don't go back before she dies and change history there.

People have theorized that in the show, the islanders are living their lives on the island over and over, until they make the 'right' choices, or if they redeem themselves. Personally, I hope this is not what's happening on the show, but I think that's what happened in the game. He redeems himself, so gets a chance to live his life without having caused Lisa to die. Still, he on the island again, so maybe he has other things to redeem himself for.

And it definitely wasn't a dream, TPTB confirmed that. I think one of them also said something like, "Well, the game's not canon, so who cares?"
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Old 03-13-2008, 02:56 AM
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According to Faraday, you can't change things.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:10 AM
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In the game you obviously can though - and that's why it's not canon. There's so much missed out too it couldn't possibly be canon.
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Old 03-13-2008, 06:45 PM
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Or maybe Ben pushed a 'reset' button and started the story again, using Michael instead of Elliot
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Old 03-15-2008, 11:13 PM
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And it definitely wasn't a dream, TPTB confirmed that. I think one of them also said something like, "Well, the game's not canon, so who cares?"
Yeah, did anyone else get pissed off when they said that... like i invested time and money in the game because i thought it would enhance the lost universe, and then to hear them say basically "well, it was really a waste because it's not relevant to the story in the any way"...

i dunno, i wish i'd known that first so that i wasn't in such a hurry to get it... i know it's difficult and time consuming, but i really wish they'd work a little harder to make these tangential things relevant... or at least so that they fit into the Lost universe...

The Matrix game, for instance, did tie in with the movies. In the middle of the 2nd or 3rd movie, Jada disappears as she is doing the mission you get to do in the video game...
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I figured he just died in the explosion, like Kate would've if you don't get in front of her and shield her.

That's why he sees Lisa at the end... they're both ghosts. He sees the plane breaking up in mid-air from the boat because he's watching outside of time and space in his ghostly realm.
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The ending of the game shows Elliot back on the beach just after the plane crashed with Lisa being alive. As we know before, she wasn't alive, however somehow Elliot must have caused a shift in the timeline (perhaps this is linked to all those "do you believe in fate?" questions) and changed the past, meaning some aspects of Elliot's past have changed: he never sacrificed Lisa.

By changing his past, not only did Lisa's death not happen, but other events of the game which don't fit with show's canon ALSO didn't happen. The fact that the game isn't canon is because Elliot changed his past. Meaning the ending we see in the game is in fact the beginning of the show we've been watching.

Which begs the question: how did Elliot change his past/fate? Perhaps it could be down to what happens in the Black Rock. Here, Elliot is supposed to take his compass and sacrifice Jack and Kate to get home because that's the kind of person he's supposed to be (signified by the fact that he sacrificed Lisa for his own personal gain). However, he changes his fate by doing exactly the opposite of what he's supposed to do, and that is sacrifice his own safety to save Jack and Kate. By sacrificing himself he skews the timeline and reboots the events of game to what we see on the show.

Thoughts? Does this theory have potential? Or am I just being dumb?
I think that's a really plausible explanation for the unexpected non-canonicity of the video game. I'm not sure how his decision to change his fate in the present on the Black Rock would alter a decision he had already made in the past, but maybe that's the big mystery of the show...

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According to Faraday, you can't change things.
Actually, Faraday said "You can't change the future." So I'm assuming it's game-on for altering the past. Course correction will iron out any potential paradoxes.
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my opinion of the game, not enough game play, and that ending was a bit.... dissapointing, anyone know if theres gonna be a sequel
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