Spoilers: Theory about everything

[Zardoz]

Hi, i am from Germany and i want to post my theorie about whats really going on on the island. Maybe i can explain some things. But i have to admit, that my theorie do not explain anything, but maybe we can work together and develop further theories. ( sorry for my poor english anyway ).

I was really thinking a lot about the things happening on the island but also beyond the island. Many strange coincidences happened and i was thinking that some thinks are really unlikely. So my idea is simple.I dont really believe that all the coincidences are coincidences ( fortuity ) at all.
Maybe it is all well planed and organised. For example Hugo's lottery jackpot win, he is winning so many millions with those numbers, then he flies around to find out the "bad thing" behind those numbers, his plane crashes on the island where the numbers originally came from and he finds a bunker with his "bad numbers" printed on it with a computer in that bunker which also "demands" those numbers. Quiet unlikely, this is never a coincidence.

So there has to be a "knowing person" a "controlling person", which can see into future or maybe into the past, the direction maybe is not so important i guess. Desmonds visions are a hint in that way and there were a lot of theories about the island being in another time zone and stuff like that. But maybe the island is not just in another time, like future or the past, maybe the island is completly "outside of time". Maybe completly high above of time. Like a Zeppelin or aerplane the island is "flying" above the whole time/history and persons on the island are able to see the complete timeline, the "past, present and future" or see even alternating time lines, which they can influence.
Aldo was reading a book "A Brief History of Time" from Steven Hawking. A few years ago i read that book. Hawking wrote a lot of things about quantum singularities/black holes and how those influence the time inside itself and around it. So i guess there is connection between the island. Maybe the island is some kind of a quantum singularity ( endlessly bending of time-space which would make the island invisible like a black hole ), that would mean that time on the island would flow very slow and time beyond the island would flow very quickly.

Juliet and some others are talking often about free will and that Juliet still believes in it. Ben somehow doesnt believe in free will. Maybe this is the key. Ben and the others maybe manipulating time. They are some kind of "time-snipers", they sit on their island high above and manipulating time to fullfill their dreams (maybe out of good or bad intentions).
I mean Ben maybe knows the future and also the whole past. Someone who knows the future of course doesnt believe in free will, this is like someone who is sitting in a train and is moving on tracks, the train cannot drive to the left or to the right, the train has to follow the track.

An island like this one, where you can see and send future informations into the "past" allows you to do anything you want. It is like the ultimate weapon. Who owns an island like this has the absolute power over earth, because he can control time.
And thats maybe the reason why there is this strange "tale of 2 cities" theme in lost. Maybe there was a war on the island ( and maybe there is still a war in the outside world between Others and Dharma), two enemies who fought against each other about the controlling of the ultimate weapon, the island. Thats maybe why Marvin Candle is talking about the incident. The incident was the first batlle, the first attack of the others to gain controll over the island and over the world ( maybe with biological warfare which made it impossible to bear a child for all the people ). And because of the war dharma was attaching explosives to the Flame and there was also the communcation system in The Flame, where you can start the self destruction sequence ( Marvin Candle asking about intruders ).
Maybe the Flame is one central point of communcation and also a station of "time manipulation". The Flame was a communcation station, thats obvious, we know that. But it is not only a simple communcation station. Imagine you can not only communicate with outside the island, you can communicate with different times. You can transport important future informations just like stock prices into the past and then of course you can gain a lot of money and power to make your corporation powerful in the outside world.
And thats maybe the reason why the Swan station was built. To communicate with the outside world you need a lot of energy. Luckily the island itself has a lot of energy. Like i wrote, the island is a quantum singularity. All you have to do is to tap the electromagnetic flow and you can produce energy to power the Flame station, so it can communicate with the outside world. Maybe thats the reason why dharma put in the computer with the failsafe mechanism in the swan.
At that time dharma was aware that the others are on the island and that they try to gain control over the stations. So they put a "dead-man's button" into the swan, just like they put explosives in the flame. If the Others would kill all dharma members nobody would be alive to push the button. The energy tap where dharma is getting all his energy would supercharge like a nuclear power plant when the chain reaction is going too high and the whole island would be destroyed. So nobody would be able to control the world, at least a draw situation.

That assumption of gaining controll over the island gives you a lot of power in the outside world, maybe is the origin of Mittelos. Mittelos maybe is a corporation which was founded from the Others after they conquered the stations. The Others after gaining control of The Flame manipulated time, they gave their people outside the island informations about important things, so Mittelos easily was able to grow, get money and got more power in the outside world.
Just like the Widmore Corporation maybe gained all of his power before that war. Widmore Corp. was so successfull because their owners were part of Hanso Foundation/Dharma who sent their people to the island. So they manipulated time, earnt a lot of money and by the way the darma/Widmorde/Hanso people were allowed to do their experiments to create a new better world. But then The Others came, maybe they lived on the island before dharma people came (Black Pearl survivors mainly?). They observed the dharma people and they learnt that the things that they are doing on this island are very important and it can give you full control over the world. Maybe Widmore/Hanso is trying to get back the controll over the island, but i write that later, just keep on reading.

Then there was war between Others and dharma. Dharma lost the war, because they were only scientist, they didnt know that there were dangerous people already living on that island. So they were surprised and they lost control. Maybe thats the reason why the dharma project was aborted, because they lost their source of information, so the ending of dharma was just a matter of time ( in the outside world ). And on the other hand mittelos "the tool of the Others in the outer world" was founded and they gained power and money by manipulating time. One city fall, the Other city rise.

And thats the actual situation on the island. The Others are controlling the island and nobody is aware of this. Maybe the Others are pretending that they are dharma, so the supply drops from outside are still coming. That would also explain why the supply drops are still coming, although dharma initiative was aborted. The Others simply send their "we need supply drop" signal to the year 1975 for example.
And then the plane crashed. Thats the point where i dont know why that happened. Maybe Ben or Jacob manipulated time, gave their people outside the world informations so they were able to initiate the plane crash. And the mittelos people also put the people into that plane, people who are usefull for the Others. For example Jack was on the plane, a doctor who is able to do spinal surgery in Ben.

So this is my theory. I think with this theory you can explain many things.
You can also expand this theory. For example what would happen when Hanso/Widmore were able to smuggle a secret agent into flight 815. For example Nathan, who was killed by Goodwin. Goodwin said to Ana Lucia that Nathan was a bad person. Maybe this would explain his execution.

And there are those files the Others are using. There is a file of Jack, his whole live is written into the file. The Others know anything about every single person on the island. How can they?
The island as a look-out could explain this. Maybe the others just collected informations from the past. Spy out the peoples lives from the moment they were born to the point where they crashed on the island.
And the last thing i was thinking about was the time hops of desmond. That could be also explained by the theory that the swan was a energy collector, which is plugged into the island "quantum-singularity" power. When Desmond is turning the failsafe key, he was in direct contact with the time flow. Just like someone who want to pull out an electrical cord but is getting an electric shock. At that moment time was floating inside Desmond, he was able to jump to different time zones directly. A big happening, because the quantum-singularity was only used to send informations into future or past, was never used before to travel directly through time.
Well, i have more ideas about other aspects. But there are also other storylines which we havent seen yet. For example the origin of the monster.

[ohwhatalife_16]

Zardoz, I really like your theory! (And your English is quite good!) Let me try and round up, so I can better understand, all the things your theory basically states:

-There are two sides in this 'war': The Dharma Initiative, and the Others/Hanso Foundation/Mittelos.
-They each wanted control of the island, which is sort of 'above' time and is omniscient, i.e. can see the past, future, etc., control time.
-They battled; the Others won.
-They have somehow set up the plane crash.

OK, I really like this, but it doesn't explain the Monster... maybe we could come up with a provision about that. Also... does the Others' side ALSO include Paik Industries, Widmore Labs, and some of the other big businesses we've seen that are possibly in conjunction with the Hanso Foundation?

[Zardoz]

I think the Dharma Initiative is a part of Hanso Foundation. And on the other side there are the Others their Corporation is Mittelos ( which means in german "without money" translated *g* ). I also think that Widmore Industries is a part of Hanso. Widmore industries somehow looks "bad" to me. And Charles Widmore was talking to Desmond. He told him that he is a nobody and not worthy to marry his daughter. Maybe it was somehow the plan of Charles Widmore to make Desmond to a castaway on our island, so he was not able to marry his daughter.

But this theory would assume, that Widmore knows where the island is. Or maybe he sent Desmond as a trojan horse. To find out where the island is, so Widmore/Hanso/Dharma would be able to regain power over the island. Maybe Desmond somehow is part of that plan. He does this infiltration mission to proof Charles Widmore that he is worthy to marry his daughter.

Ok the Monster thing is something i was not able to figure it out, i wrote that already. I was thinking a lot about the monster and why he killed the pilot and eko. He also was attacking Locke and also Juliet ( seems like an attack but the barrier kept it away ). So why those 4 people? What do they have in common? Ok lets take out Locke and Juliet, we really dont know if the monster really attacked them. Monster maybe only wanted to kidnap Locke, he was pulling him underground, not killing him.
It is really strange that the monster killed the pilot at the beginning. The pilot was not guilty in any way. He didnt kill someone on the island. But maybe the pilot killed someone before the crash, we do not know what he did in the past. And the pilot also was not involved in that swan "project". First i thought monster attacked eko because he was with Locke, they wanted to stop the input of the numbers. But why didnt he kill Locke? Locke was the one who broke the computer. So the monster should kill people who want to keep on pushing the numbers.

Doesnt really make a lot of sense to me. Maybe the monster only kills bad people, not people who are involved in number-pushing or not pushing. But then it had to kill a lot of people. But it never attacked Ethan or Ana-Lucia who wanted to kill or killed. Ana-Lucia killed a lot of people, also did kate killed one person. So i dont know, the monster is acting crazy *g*

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A picture which illustrutes my main theory about the island being a "black hole" with electromagnetic, optical and time deformations ( like black holes ):

[mjcaurora]

Nice theories,

Regarding the big business's, Mittelos has security and expertise beyond our own governments !! Surely our relative CIA/M16/Mossad agencies would know about and have an interest in what these people were doing ?

My theory is that Jacob is a powerful businessman with ideals of being CHRIST !! with the new coming in 108 days (silly really but u never know !)

I believe our secret agent wasn't Nathan but our lovely crazy man, whom is on a mission, M/sgt John Locke ( I think he is a NAVY SEAL or something hence the M/sgt title)

I wonder who the last person, delivered by Mittelos, was to come to the Island ?

Please comment on other peoples posts u will find some of them rather good.

GL mf the people here have many very good theories, read some of the posts, they have covered so much, it all gets rather confusing


C U in another DIVERGENT "brutha"

[Zardoz]

Locke being a Widmore Spy. Could be possible. According to my theories Widmore has an interest in regaining control back over the island ( after they lost war against the others ). At least Widmore wants a draw, destroying TheFlame and/or TheSwan, so the Others are not able anymore to controll time. And thats exactly what Locke is doing, he takes away the power from the Others, destroying TheSwan, TheFlame and the submarine. He could be a spy. Maybe Locke being a cripple was just only a cover story, but thats only speculation.
I mean healing cancer is one thing, maybe Roses cancer was not healed, it was only stopped by the time flow on the island. But how can a slower time let you regain controll over your crippled legs?

All in all maybe there is not only just one spy, maybe there are plenty. Desmond for instance came to the island. His mission to push the button. Just like Locke was so eager to push the button. Locke was somehow a changing of the guard. But something happened then to Locke, he changed his position, at some point he was not eager anymore to push the button, then he started his raid against the Others ( killed Mikhail )

[mjcaurora]

Mikhail said "And you John Locke, the last time I saw you, you were para-"
I believe that he was going to say before rudely interupted by Frenchie,
"you were parachutist hunting"

Is Mikhail really dead ? Nahhhhh surely not our wonderful Mikhail, I believe that this will be talked about very soon.

Watch this space !!


C U in another DIVERGENT "Brutha"

[Zardoz]

"you were parachutist hunting" ?

I think its more likely that he only wanted to say "you were paralyzed".

Even Ben was wondering and asking Locke "and you were able to walk abruptly"?

[Wiggy]

Originally Posted by ohwhatalife_16

Zardoz, I really like your theory! (And your English is quite good!) Let me try and round up, so I can better understand, all the things your theory basically states:

-There are two sides in this 'war': The Dharma Initiative, and the Others/Hanso Foundation/Mittelos.
-They each wanted control of the island, which is sort of 'above' time and is omniscient, i.e. can see the past, future, etc., control time.
-They battled; the Others won.
-They have somehow set up the plane crash.

OK, I really like this, but it doesn't explain the Monster... maybe we could come up with a provision about that. Also... does the Others' side ALSO include Paik Industries, Widmore Labs, and some of the other big businesses we've seen that are possibly in conjunction with the Hanso Foundation?

i like all of that except the whole setting up the plane crash

[kelmar]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

"you were parachutist hunting" ?

I think its more likely that he only wanted to say "you were paralyzed".

Even Ben was wondering and asking Locke "and you were able to walk abruptly"?

amazing theory and one that I can fully buy into. It all ties in with the idea that everything was manufactured - the people on the island where chosen and brought there and I feel that among our gallant LOSTIES there is a spy of sorts.

My compliements Zardoz

[Slax]

Originally Posted by Zardoz
"you were parachutist hunting" ?

I think its more likely that he only wanted to say "you were paralyzed".


During that episode, the hearing impared text said "you were paralyzed". The interesting part is he says "The last time I saw you..." Where would he have seen him. If we say in another hatch or via a camara or anywhere on the island, he was not paralyzed. Only before the crash was Locke this way.