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Reasons why SMOKEY is the 'Light' side of the Game.
Jacob has been on a long con.....and everyone has fell for it.
Reasons why Smokey/MIB are the 'Good' side of the island and Jacob is actually the bad one:
-Last episode as Flocke is sitting in the rocking chair in the foot waiting for Richard but instead Bram and his team come in (Jacobs people) what does Flocke do? He doesnt attempt to kill them, he simply says "Jacob is gone, you can go, your'e free", which is the same line said to Michael on the Kahana.
Instead, Brams team fire on him, its only then, once an attack was initiated on him that he attacks back. Otherwise they could have walked right out of there unhindered.
-The killing of Mr Eko by Smokey. Now smokey was coming to "Claim" Eko as it looked like he had turned a corner, turned away from his old life of murder and corruption and found some faith.....some redemption.
But down on his knees in front of smokey (As Yemi) he said that he DID NOT REPENT his ways, that he did the best with his life and that he "asked NO FORGIVENESS". Eko was a bad guy till the end, so he was taken out.
-Claire isnt "infected" as the Others say she is. Neither is Sayid. Now Smokey has claimed the bodies of Christian shephard and claire, so i think just like we have seen that Claire is quite alive and quite real, so is Christian.
How does Smokey "claim" abody if he cannot reach the temple pool?...well dont forget, the Natives only JUST circled the place with ash when Hurley told them Jacob was dead, so smokey, or any of his claimed bodies, would have been able to access the pool in the pretence of being on Jacobs behalf. We have seen christian use Jacobs name before saying that he is speaking on his behalf, but he only said that because everyone was conned into believing Following what Jacob wants is the correct thing to do.
This obviously means that, the same as Christian and Sayid, claire must have briefly died as we suspected back in season 4 when the mercs attacked the barracks. Miles knew this just like he knew Sayid was dead.
When the time was right MIB came and took Claire from the camp, once she was fully "claimed" as it seems there is a transition period.
-This would account for Flockes "Im very disappointed in all of you" comment, as he expected that some of them would have found redemption by now, would have been at the point where Smokey could have claimed them as total good guys. Theres no faking it from smokey, he can see into your soul.
Although Locke is now this MIB reincarnate, he still retains some essence of Locke, his memories etc, so that why he feels disappointed in all of them, as he knows all of them so well!
-So for all the Locke lovers, this truly does mean that Locke was always special and did have a destiny. Smokey came for him early on, he had looked into the eye of the island and he saw the exact opposite to what Eko saw, he saw something beautiful, why? because he was a good guy, ready to believe in magic, whereas Eko was a murderer and saw every bad thing he'd done in his life.
This explains why Sayid has been claimed by the good side, just before his death he repented, he realised he'd done wrong torturing and murdering and i think he was genuinely sorry.
-Locke was right way back in season 1 when he said the Others were the bad guys .."Their the ones who've attacked us, Their the ones who've kidnapped and murdered us".
Although the Others think they are on the good side and doing this for the right reasons ("We're the Good guys, Michael") they are just acting on the wrong info from Jacob.
-Juliets brand. Now Juliet received that brand in season 3 for killing an Other. But she did it for the right reasons and was a good woman at heart, which is why she was helping the losties. This brand cast her out of the Others society, but it also sort of 'marked her out' for smokey.
Smokey came for her in the banyan tress, but unfortunately he was thwarted by the sonic fence.
Now this mark is very telling anyway, its called the3 'Delphian epsilon' or 'The sun of Vergina' which is linked to purity and the God Apollo.
-I think Widmore may turn out to be a good guy, this is why in Bens reign (who was being deceived remember) he was cast out from the island. He was the one who rescued locke and told him he had to be back on the island and Ben was the one who murdered him.
I think we will see him back on the island for the war thats coming....and as we can see, the sides are now being firmly chosen.
We've been lead to believe, much like smokey, that Widmore is a bad guy...Everythings going to change in the end, what we thought was bad isnt and vice versa.
-Ben. Im not sure about Ben, hes been to the temple pool....He seems like he has been conned as well, but as to whether he finds ultimate redemption in the end?
If he was healed by the pool as opposed to dieing and being saved by Jacob then theres hope for him.
Well thats it guys, thats what im saying, the writers are pulling the long con on us, and Jacob is pulling the long con on (nearly) everybody on the island!
Love all of this!
If Jacob is so good, why has he ruined all of the Losties lives? Having his touch hasn't really helped them.
I like it!
Although, I am still not convinced Smokey is the one giving people the infection. I have seen a lot of people saying this, but every time they use assumption in some way to connect MIB to the infection.
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I've never been sold as Jacob being the definitive good guy. It's up in the air, as both men have seemingly both good and bad tendencies. Jacob seems just as manipulative as MiB, but why does MiB resort to murder?
Originally Posted by RSMFields
I'm drawing blanks for some reason...
Appreciate your write up of all that- I think you're right!
when the 2 chicks were down in the looking glass didn't ben tell mikhail that jacob wanted them dead? or was that just ben? i don't remember
Originally Posted by FrenchMyToast
p.s. jacob kind of killed nadia
or at least it was his fault
Hmm this is interesting, and you do have a good amount of info to back it up. I guess we will just have to wait and see, it is lost so you can't always be sure
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