Richard And The Temple

[IAMCHARLIESGRANDFATHER]

Originally Posted by SBD

Hi, I'm new to this forum. But been lurking for a while.

IMO, from reading some of the spoilers. Jack and co are still in '77. I think they've visited the temple and will meet Jacob there. Jacob will hear their story and arrange to go meet (and touch them for an unknown reason) in the real world, as seen in the Incident. Bit like how Richard visted Locke as a child was a huge mystery but turned out it was because Locke told him to. They will also tell him they came on flight AJIRA 316 in 2008, which will be why Jacob set the Others the task of building the runway in season 3.

This is my prediction anyway, could be wrong.

Then what do you think the big light at the end of the episode was??

[SBD]

The flash could just be the bomb. I don’t think anyone can say that the flash at the end of season 5 is definitely the result of a time flash. It’s quite ambiguous which is probably what the writers wanted.

As far as we know the time skips are caused by the moving the donkey wheel and the donkey wheel being stuck. That is at the Orchid. The Incident was the Swan. We’ve been led to believe that time travel happens only as of a result of moving the donkey wheel at the Orchid, are we to assume dropping a bomb in a completely different place (the Swan) also causes time flashes?

And the island/time knows no present. If there is to be another flash why not send the Losties further back in time or further into the future. Just seems a bit of a cop out way of returning them to their present. These time skips have been random, and it all seems rather convenient that the final random time skip ,that happens to them, sends them to their exact present.

[Ricardus Alpert]

SBD, I don't think it's going to be random. You said that each flash had a purpose for the Losties. So, I think they're done with the past. Their purpose is now in the present, because war is about to begin on the island. Jacob said "They're coming". If it he was referring to a different group altogether, I feel it would be a cheat.

[SBD]

Very true. I want them back in the present as soon as but I just hope dropping the bomb doesn’t send them there. As said before seems to against everything we’ve seen before involving time travel and importance of the Donkey Wheel.

[ben_linus]

Originally Posted by SBD

As far as we know the time skips are caused by the moving the donkey wheel and the donkey wheel being stuck. That is at the Orchid. The Incident was the Swan. We’ve been led to believe that time travel happens only as of a result of moving the donkey wheel at the Orchid, are we to assume dropping a bomb in a completely different place (the Swan) also causes time flashes?

Yes we are, because The Swant site contains over 30 times the amount of electromagnetic energy found at The Orchid; and thus, the FDW. If the electromagnetic energy at the FDW can cause time-flashes, then it only makes sense that a place containing a substantially larger amount of electromagnetism can do the same.

[SBD]

Originally Posted by ben_linus

Yes we are, because The Swant site contains over 30 times the amount of electromagnetic energy found at The Orchid; and thus, the FDW. If the electromagnetic energy at the FDW can cause time-flashes, then it only makes sense that a place containing a substantially larger amount of electromagnetism can do the same.

Fair enough, I agree with that. But I'm not saying time skips can't happen at the Swan. I'm just not sure dropping a h-bomb on it should cause time skips. Just doesn't make much sense to me after all we've seen with pushing the donkey wheel and the wheel getting stuck etc.

[MilesSmiles]

Originally Posted by SBD

Very true. I want them back in the present as soon as but I just hope dropping the bomb doesn’t send them there. As said before seems to against everything we’ve seen before involving time travel and importance of the Donkey Wheel.

If the bomb doesn't send them there, they're dead, if it's at all nuclear in scale. And if it's not nuclear in scale, it might as well have been a grenade.

[SBD]

Originally Posted by MilesSmiles

If the bomb doesn't send them there, they're dead, if it's at all nuclear in scale. And if it's not nuclear in scale, it might as well have been a grenade.

That's another thing. If it is on a nuclear scale, then Ben is dead, Horace is dead, Widmore is dead, Eloise is dead, Richard is dead, Jacob is dead. Assuming none of them left the island when it was being evacuated. So really none of these people should be in the Alt Universe which we are reading about in spoilers. Assuming the Alt Universe breaks from the original at the point the bomb goes off.

[BearHug]

Originally Posted by SBD

That's another thing. If it is on a nuclear scale, then Ben is dead, Horace is dead, Widmore is dead, Eloise is dead, Richard is dead, Jacob is dead. Assuming none of them left the island when it was being evacuated. So really none of these people should be in the Alt Universe which we are reading about in spoilers. Assuming the Alt Universe breaks from the original at the point the bomb goes off.

Daniel's plan was never to blow up the island. He intended, as further explained by Sayid, to only use the plutonium core to negate the energy at the swan site to prevent a greater catastrophe.

[Ricardus Alpert]

Here's a new set report from Dark:

Busy day for filming at the 'survivors' beach camp today... Fri, 11/6. Witnessed Evangeline Lilly (Kate), Matthew Fox (Jack), Michael Emerson (Ben), Jorge Garcia (Hugo), Emilie de Ravin (Claire), Yunjin Kim (Sun), Jeff Fahey (Frank Lapidus) & Nestor Carbonell (Richard Alpert)

I think this pretty much confirms all the interaction with The Temple's Guardians takes place in 2007. The 77ers are transported there by the flash we saw in "The Incident", and it's likely that they are separated. Notice how Richard is back on the beach, while he wasn't mentioned in the last few reports of the beach set, and the last recorded sighting of him was at The Temple.