Mafia XXV - Happily Ever After? A Return To Storyville

[blueeagleislander]

Originally Posted by Losty McLost

I found the bolded bit fairly suspicious. I didn't find your defense of Bwit suspicious but this makes me a bit suspicious. Textbook wifom, right? That is, if you're a baddie, you could directly defend Bwit because no-one would ever think you would do it as a baddie teammate of him. I thought it was suspicious that you pointed it out straight away, almost like you had planned to do it if questioned because you had that exact defense planned when you directly defended Bwit. If any of that makes sense. But yeah, hopefully someone gets what I mean.

Jumped out at me as well, any sentence that starts with "Anyone who has ever played with me as a baddie knows that I..." is pretty much a wifom.

Originally Posted by Sit~Vincent~Sit

I have played with BWIT, and quite a bit, too. I have been on a btsc team with him, and played against him. Bwit is a skim reader, to some extent, so he sometimes misses things, and isn't afraid to ask for help (which I think is good, clarity is good, no question is a stupid question). That's all.

Even if you skim read the thread, and/or the roles, you should be able to pick what team a role's on imo.

K, I just remembered I ahve a breakfast tomorrow morn so I shall not be here to vote. So I'm going Bwit, there's been no other real suspects for me, or discussed in the thread.

[LostHeroes]

Originally Posted by Sit~Vincent~Sit

4:41 AM Central



7:01 AM Central

What happened in 3 hours, LH??

Well, the second one was in reply to Bubble's statement.

[TokyoRose]

Originally Posted by Long Con

Ooooohhhhh...... so, everyone was right. And wrong. Especially TokyoRose.

hahahahaha I was so right in my interpretation and you were wrong....it was only the bit after they gained btsc that I was wrong about.

*pokes LC*

Originally Posted by BenWantsIcedTea

I don't understand, are the mice civvies or baddies?

Well I know there was some confusion over who they could kill but wow.....

Originally Posted by Dharma Ranch Dressing

DP: I'd also like to add that Rose's posts are a bit disjointed...but I think that's relatively understandable considering we all were a bit confused at the time.

I don't think they were disjointed? Anyway now we have host clarification I was actually right that the mice could kill civvies (I just didn't know they couldn't once they gained btsc) If they did come across as disjointed, I was extremely sleepy yesterday....I drank two cups of filter coffee after we took the boy to our fireworks display, was unable to sleep until 3am and up again at 6.30. Yeah yesterday was one looooong day where my brain was probaby still in bed.

Now today is a new day, you'll all be happy to know I slept very well last night and am wide awake.

That, however, has not helped me out in who my vote is going towards. BWIT asking if the mice were civvies was odd, as was LH (?) saying he's more active in this game. I think I recall two or three posts from him...is that considered active?

For now I can see where his confusion came in, many were confused yesterday but that question could have been answered by a simple look at the roles post. I don't see a baddie motivation for asking such a question in public but hmmmm.....a few things are tingling my suspiciometer. I'm going to reread now.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by LostHeroes

Yes, but he could've founds the answer very easily by reading the roles.

Yes, but the fact that he didn't know the mice were civvie... How does that make him bad? If he was bad he would know they aren't on his team. I would think if he was bad he'd at least check out the other baddie teams abilities and he'd know they weren't from that team... I just don't see how him getting confused on this fact makes him bad...

I don't want to sound like I'm defending him too much... But crap like this happens every game it seems.

[Tranquility]

Originally Posted by Sit~Vincent~Sit

I have played with BWIT, and quite a bit, too. I have been on a btsc team with him, and played against him. Bwit is a skim reader, to some extent, so he sometimes misses things, and isn't afraid to ask for help (which I think is good, clarity is good, no question is a stupid question). That's all. If you look back at games BWIT has played, this always happens; he says some weird thing, or some totally vacuous thing & everyone freaks out~

Part of it, I think, is also Day 1 "Getting to Know You" on the parts of all the players.

I disagree with the bolded part. It was a pretty stupid question (no offence bwit )

Your "Getting to Know You" quote is very true though. Looking at the player list, there are quite a few names i haven't played with. But unfortunately i have to vote right now. I'm voting for BenWantsIceTea though i admit it's mainly because of my lack of other suspects.

*votes*

Weekends are usually work days for me so i won't be online much. But I should be able to pop in tomorrow morning before heading off to work again

[Comfortably Numb]

Okay, I'm not in the old games club, by default. I'm against it - just an opinion but if I'm to live with it, I'm at a disadvantage for a few games - that's pooh for new members and 'unfair' in my book - your rules I guess. I realise that I have some advantage of unkown entity too..
Oh sorry - about those spells, (dyslexic - worse without galsses and spell check, had the wrong language on too)

Back on major topic, as I can't add more to he back when we were playing club... Mice:
opt 1 - Do we leave them vanilla for now, till they have a target.. we may loose one at some point, reducing the group and kills, but it's safe.

opt 2 - N1 nominate two targets based on what we think we found today and take a 50/50 chance the lookout diverts them to a baddie/civvie kill; odds are fairly even of a lookout success

The advantage of opt 2 is we nominate players now and see if it brings forth some info as well as being procative on a plan. Just incase this flag flies up your pole with some degree of interest. I'll nominate Scocub and BWIT, they can input/repond if they want, hell they can nominate too

Thoughts/other options.. or yo can just talk about old games

[Sit~Vincent~Sit]

Originally Posted by Tranquility

I disagree with the bolded part. It was a pretty stupid question (no offence bwit )

Your "Getting to Know You" quote is very true though. Looking at the player list, there are quite a few names i haven't played with. But unfortunately i have to vote right now. I'm voting for BenWantsIceTea though i admit it's mainly because of my lack of other suspects.

OK, you're right, it was kind of a lame question~ Ha Ha, lol~ But I don't think it's enough to lynch him on~

OK, I gotta get my show on the road. I don't want to depend on wireless reception in the middle of North Dakota, lol, so I'm going to vote now. I think I have no clue whether Bwit is bad or good, he is just Bwit. So I am going to vote LH. He tweaked me a bit with his flip floppy attitute towards Bwitgate. I know it's weak, but it's what I got~

*Votes LostHeroes*

[stlgirl]

Originally Posted by Long Con

Ooooohhhhh...... so, everyone was right. And wrong. Especially TokyoRose.

To me, just seems like you were wrong and I was right.

Originally Posted by scocub

I'm have a bit of trouble deciphering but I can say that I am in no way affiliated with BWIT.

Anyone who has ever played with me as a baddie knows that I never defend a fellow baddie. I have no idea if BWIT is bad or not but I did not think his post came across reeking of deception. It seemed more like genuine confusion. You never know what can get the ball rolling against someone so I though I should speak up about my take on his post. His could be a confused civvie or baddie but his confusion in itself does not make me lean one way or another on his alignment.

*does the WIFOM dance*

Originally Posted by Losty McLost

I found the bolded bit fairly suspicious. I didn't find your defense of Bwit suspicious but this makes me a bit suspicious. Textbook wifom, right? That is, if you're a baddie, you could directly defend Bwit because no-one would ever think you would do it as a baddie teammate of him. I thought it was suspicious that you pointed it out straight away, almost like you had planned to do it if questioned because you had that exact defense planned when you directly defended Bwit. If any of that makes sense. But yeah, hopefully someone gets what I mean.

Hey, you know the WIFOM dance too?!

[Freckles]

Originally Posted by Kylemii

I feel like if bwit were really a baddie then his btsc would be giving him advice.

Liiike, stop posting and maybe this will blow over?? *looks around for BWIT* mmhmm

Originally Posted by Comfortably Numb

mut(ish) point: metagaming, other games, play and stratergy don't count - it seriously not cool
/whinge

Think of it as akin to bringing a character witness to court. What they did as which roles can shed a lot of light on why someone is acting a certain way now.

Reading what I have today, it looks like this is always the way BWIT plays, regardless of alliance. That gives us a 50/50 chance (ish, I'm no good with the statistics, I'll leave that to Typh).

Someone also mentioned that it looks like he isn't really reading the thread or the roles. Well, maybe he's counting on his teammates (read: scummates) to fill in the holes for him.

I'm gettin' the baddie vibe from BWIT, so I'm going to vote for him. I know it's early, but I have to leave in 30 mins to take my sick kid to the doc, and I have no idea how today will play out.

If BWIT turns up bad, I'm looking at Kylemii and Bubbles next.

[LostHeroes]

Originally Posted by Sit~Vincent~Sit

OK, you're right, it was kind of a lame question~ Ha Ha, lol~ But I don't think it's enough to lynch him on~

OK, I gotta get my show on the road. I don't want to depend on wireless reception in the middle of North Dakota, lol, so I'm going to vote now. I think I have no clue whether Bwit is bad or good, he is just Bwit. So I am going to vote LH. He tweaked me a bit with his flip floppy attitute towards Bwitgate. I know it's weak, but it's what I got~

*Votes LostHeroes*

Flipfloppy? WTF? How was I flipfloppy? I think he's a good guy based on how he's played in other games. I never said I thought he was bad. Please explaing how I was flipfloppy, because I don't know how I was.