Island Location, Wormholes, and Magnetism

[jerseyguy]

The (evolving) Theory: You can draw a straight line around the earth from
-Tunisia
-Crozet Islands SE of Africa mapquest
-Magnetic South Pole
-The Island (or where it was before it "moved")
-Portland
-Magnetic North Pole
-back to Tunisia
This line represents the earth's magnetic axis.
Please view the 2 attached images at the bottom of this post

You can see the map and each coordinate here Map of Magnetic Earth Axis
Also see attached images below for spherical views

Think of this axis as some magnetic highway that encircles the earth.
This highway has special points along it where it brushes the earth (wormholes) in such a way that you can enter or exit it provided you know how. (wormhole sites like Portland, Tunisia, the island, etc). And occasionally, you may inadvertantly enter the highway, only to be dumped onto the island (Blackrock, Yemi's plane). Dharma was attempting to master the technique at the Orchid (polar bears in Tunisia).

Tunisia we know can be teleported to. (Ben, polar bears)
Crozet Islands have no significance (yet), but are antipodal from Portland
Magnetic South Pole for obvious reasons (probable Penny listening station)
The island's original location, antipodal to Tunisia, 600m east of New Zealand.
Portland, the Others' research facility (and possible launch site for sub during Juliette recruitment). Also was shown on sat phone in last episode of Season 3.
Magnetic North Pole for obvious reasons

What's so "magnetic" about the island?

In general, volcanic rock is magnetic, containing large amounts of iron. Most of the Pacific islands are volcanic in origin. ex - Hawaii
The island seems to be an extreme example of volcanic magnetism.
Earth's Magnetic field & volcanism wiki

The Crozet Islands are also volcanic.
The ocean floor off the Portland coast also has inactive volcanism Gorda Ridge 200m off Portland

Back in Feb08, Jack Sheepherder pointed out a possible significance of the element Holmium in relation to LOST Jack's thread
You can read the wiki
Two important aspects of this element are:
1 - It is has the strongest magnetic properties of any natural element.
2 - It has been suggested that Holmium increases the body's metabolism

Taking a leap here...but I think Jack has not only discovered what makes the island so incredibly magnetic, but also why people get healed on the island.

The axis connection to the Orchid and Donkey Wheel:

The Donkey Wheel below the Orchid sits at the epicenter of the magnetic flux that runs across or through the island's area, and near a pocket of exotic matter

Long before Dharma was around, someone or something built that Donkey Wheel that moved the island. The room where it is located is there solely for that purpose.

Many years later, Dharma had discovered the donkey wheel. They found out, to some degree, what was on the other side of that wall and what it could do. We don't know whether they used the wheel themselves. But they did know what they had was dangerous, knew it was powerful, and knew it was currently beyond their comprehension. So they built the Orchid around the wheel to study the exotic matter and see how they could use it.

How does the Orchid and Donkey Wheel work?

2 terms here the show has given us: "exotic matter" & "Casimir effect". Together, both point directly to "worm hole".
Currently we don't have a clue how this works. But IMO, it's safe to assume that the island and individuals can travel via a wormhole. The wormhole travel will certainly involve both travelling through space AND time.

Where/when has the island "Moved" to?

We know it moved. But we don't yet know if the island moved through space, time, or both. Because we do know Ben moved through both (both into the future 10 months and to Tunisia), we can guess that the island did something similar, but for the moment, this is all unknown.

If this island moved through space, where did it move to? To another point along this magnetic axis.

So what about the location where the island used to be. Is it still significant?

YES! The wormhole endpoints are fixed. The island has moved, but the wormhole that it travelled on has not moved. It is still there, in the center of the void where the island was. Just as Portland and Tunisia are still wormhole endpoints, the place where the island was is still one also.

We may find that Faraday and his zodiac full of redshirts did not move with the island. But Faraday, better than anyone who isn't an other/hostile, understands the concepts on this travelling system. My theory for season 5 may show that Faraday takes his zodiac right through and follows the island to wherever it went.

To explain Daniel Faraday's insistance that bearing 305 be taken to leave the island, and Ben's insistance that Michael and Walt use bearing 325:

Looking at the map I gave that shows this axis stretching around the globe, this axis crosses the island from Southwest to Northeast (more accurately, just a little left of this). Bearing 305 (which is just a little left of straight Northwest) would be a nearly perfect perpendicular angle to this axis where it crosses the island's location.

So the theory goes, time runs seperately on the island and on the rest of earth. But time is running at the same speed on both. When crossing from the island's time plane to earth's time plane (or vice versa), the direction you travel directly affects the time differential between the 2 planes. A perpendicular crossing yields no time differential. (bearing 305). A crossing to the one side of perpendicular accesses the future, while a crossing to the other side of perpendicular accesses the past. (I can't say which side, as it depends on the direction the magnetic rift flows)

So, Daniel said "Bearing 305" because that's the approximate direction the freighter lies (which is toward's Fiji) and he needed to make sure they came at a point in time that the freighter was still there. Travelling off the island in the opposite direction at bearing 125 (a little south of Southeast) would also get you off the island as well without losing or gaining time.

Now, onto Ben and bearing 325. Ben specifically said "leave at bearing 325 and you will find rescue". Ben somehow knew that sending Michael off on bearing 325 wouldn't only put him in the right place, but also at the right time to get rescured.

Lastly, think back on Daniel Faraday's rocket/probe experiment. Fired at the precisely correct angle, the rocket would arrive in the same timeframe it was fired. It was fired a small amount of degrees off, resulting in the 35 minute or so timelag. However far it was off course, it probably wasn't much...which shows you how far time can get off track coming or going at the wrong bearing. Also, when Sayid and Desmond took the chopper, they arrived what seemed to be + or - 12 hours or so. (I assume it's hard to keep a chopper perfectly on course compared to programmable guided rocket)

Can you leave the island at any bearing?

In short, no.

The entry/exit to the island isn't a point, but a general area at the perpindicular bearings. Leaving through the center of this bearing has no time shift. Increasing variations of this bearing net an increasing time shift. But there is a currently unknown limit at which point the entry/exit is no longer possible.

Refer to Desmond, who sailed west and never left the island's vacinity. (bearing 270)

So if the island moved through space, did the "safe" bearing change?

It certainly should. If this subject ever comes back up in season 5, it will be a great tool to prove/disapprove this theory.
According to the theory, I should be able to very easily calculate the safe bearing if we know the location of where the island has moved to.

What about the doc's body?

See the previous explanation of bearings, and coming and going to the island. It would be very easy to imagine the doc's body floating on the current, perhaps floating from the freighter to the island in a mild horseshoe shaped path...and arriving a few days or more into the past

To explain the island's supply of electricity:
Your basic electromagnetic generator consists of wire surrounding a spinning magnet (or a spinning wire surrounding a magnet...same thing reversed).
Faraday's Law (the real life Michael Faraday, not Daniel Faraday...no coincidence as you probably already know) states all you need is an electrical conductor moving perpendicular to a magnetic field
Because the island is sitting in the middle of this rotating magnetic axis, there is no need to have the conductor move because the magnet (the axis) is already moving. Dharma has created a perpetual generator that runs all the electricity on the island.

Other thoughts:
Adam and Eve - This theory easily sets up a scenario, where at the end of the entire series, a couple returns to the island at a bearing that emerges them into the past, before the show and before Dharma, where they live out their lives in peace. (and death)

[Jacob10]

another great read.

[HopeIsInside]

This line is pretty much the sine wave created by connecting the locations of the Vile Vortices.


-M

[jerseyguy]

Originally Posted by HopeIsInside

This line is pretty much the sine wave created by connecting the locations of the Vile Vortices.

it looks like a sine wave on the flat map. put it on a globe and it's a near perfect circle. (I would imagine it should be perfect, but all the but the south pole coordinates are estimated.
- we don't know where the Portland portal is exactly.
- we don't exactly where in Tunisia the portal is (it could even be closely neighboring country)

[dgb100]

That circle doesn't quite line up, but I guess it is good enough for TV . From Mag South - Sydney - Mag North goes way west and north of Sydney - Portland - Tunisia. However the line from MS - Sydney - MN would have taken the plane 1000+ miles west of a Sydney-LA line right about in the middle of the heavily islanded Coral Sea.

As to the fake crash, I guess you take them where ever you can get them, but the location, (Java correct?) is so far off course as to be unbelievable. The flight would have had to have started off course by over 90 degrees almost immediately, flown over the continent of Australia (kind of noticeable), not be picked up by dozens of airport and military radars, then crashed over near a heavily traffiked sea-lane, unnoticed.

[jerseyguy]

Originally Posted by dgb100

That circle doesn't quite line up, but I guess it is good enough for TV . From Mag South - Sydney - Mag North goes way west and north of Sydney - Portland - Tunisia. However the line from MS - Sydney - MN would have taken the plane 1000+ miles west of a Sydney-LA line right about in the middle of the heavily islanded Coral Sea.

As to the fake crash, I guess you take them where ever you can get them, but the location, (Java correct?) is so far off course as to be unbelievable. The flight would have had to have started off course by over 90 degrees almost immediately, flown over the continent of Australia (kind of noticeable), not be picked up by dozens of airport and military radars, then crashed over near a heavily traffiked sea-lane, unnoticed.

Im not quite sure why you are referring to Sydney. That wasn't on my map.
And find a globe and draw the circle. It is pretty straight.

I am saying the location of the island /crashsite is here Island location, which is about 600NE of New Zealand, or about 1800 SW of Tahiti, or about 1400 miles SE of Fiji

As for the fake crash...I didn't include it on my map. The coordinates don't fit in.

[jarofclay73]

Island location... Wormholes... Magentism... OH MY!
Island location... Wormholes... Magentism... OH MY!
Island location... Wormholes... Magentism... OH MY!

[HopeIsInside]

I don't think referencing Sydney is too far out there. The line gets as close to Sydney as it does to the North Pole.


-M

[dgb100]

Yes I realize the fake crash wasn't mentioned, but the spot Whitmore picked is too far off for anyone to buy it. I included Sydney since that was where the flight originated. Wanted to see how close it would be to your line.

[jerseyguy]

Originally Posted by dgb100

Yes I realize the fake crash wasn't mentioned, but the spot Whitmore picked is too far off for anyone to buy it. I included Sydney since that was where the flight originated. Wanted to see how close it would be to your line.

Yes, I agree that the fake crash site is completely unbelievable. Almost makes me think its real....