Which group are you in?

[Apocolyptika]

Seeing as the dharmawantsyou.com thread is getting too long, and we actually have some progress I thought it would be good to start one fresh with our results and maybe we can find some way to decipher what group refers to what etc.
I scored a highest of 78% with no cheating and no recruiting and I am in the Pandora group and I am female if that means anything to DI lol
let's get the ball rolling guys :)

[Sharice]

Yep, I'm in Pandora too, with a score of 80 and no recruiting, as of yet.

[alwayslost01]

You should make a poll to who we are :)

I'm Ganymede and I got 83 with no cheating and 98 with cheating....

[Kadaj]

I'm ganymede with 86% no cheating, then pandora with 23% :p

[Apocolyptika]

Here's a question if I didnt cheat now and i'm classified as Pandora.. if I cheat now after I'm classified in a group you think it will change? lol I just want to see if that is the difference between the groups

by the way i added a poll seems to be a better way to get an average :)

[Lost Rabbi]

I'm in Pandora, 85 on the test with no cheating.
(my alter ego got a 99 and cheated and is in Ganymede...and got my original account 10 points).

[Sharice]

Here's a question if I didnt cheat now and i'm classified as Pandora.. if I cheat now after I'm classified in a group you think it will change? lol I just want to see if that is the difference between the groups

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

I don't really want to cheat though, just in case it affects somthing along the way.

[Apocolyptika]

hmm debates on getting an alter ego :P

[John Locke is Kobe Bryant]

How do you even cheat on there?

And I'm Ganymede

[Apocolyptika]

Pandora:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora

Ganymede:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganymede_%28mythology%29

I'm sure there are other details about the two as well .. even if it was based on the ones who pressed the space bar and the ones who didn't.. what made them choose those names?

[alwayslost01]

You can't cheat anymore :D They've taken out the space bar thing so that's impossible. But I know people on both side that have cheated so....

[Apocolyptika]

How do you even cheat on there?

And I'm Ganymede


so you didn't cheat and you are a Ganymede :D well that puts my theory out the window lol what was your score?

[Lost Rabbi]

I just did it on the second account I opened--it still works.

[Apocolyptika]

You can't cheat anymore :D They've taken out the space bar thing so that's impossible. But I know people on both side that have cheated so....


nope you can still do it :p

[alwayslost01]

I just did it on the second account I opened--it still works.

Oh really? How weird... my computer is f*cked then :p

[DrinkDharmaBeer]

i'm in Pandora and my high score was 99 with the spacebar "cheat"

[Apocolyptika]

So maybe it's a combination of the first enrollment test and test 1.. I guess time will tell and are these two going to be the only groups or are they going to divide us further down the line?

[JackGirl22]

Okay, so I am not on the top 10 and I am in Pandora with 0 Dharma Points. Got 70 without cheating, 99 with the space bar cheat.

So, what do you have to do to get "Dharma Points"? I guess score really high on the test... so probably the people that did the do it yourself cheat, put in any number you want, are probably the top 10?

[KellyFireFly]

I'm in Pandora. I got 80% at first, without cheating. Now have 99% with cheating! Uh-oh, I hope they wanted us to press space... ;)

[Sharice]

Okay, so I am not on the top 10 and I am in Pandora with 0 Dharma Points. Got 70 without cheating, 99 with the space bar cheat.

So, what do you have to do to get "Dharma Points"? I guess score really high on the test... so probably the people that did the do it yourself cheat, put in any number you want, are probably the top 10?

The site says that to earn Dharma Points you have to recruit other people into taking the test.

[Lost Rabbi]

OK...I'm bored, and this is mildly entertaining.

I made a third account to test a few thoughts on how recruitment happens--none of them are how we're split:

Gender and birth date...noticing that both are required (which is a little bit odd), and remembering that there was lots of discussion about the July 17, 1978 as the default on the birthday, I figured I'd try doing both differently--based on the 3 accounts I'm made, (on birthdays, btw, I did my actual birthday before that date, that date and a later date),there's no pattern here with the groups I've been assigned, unless everyone in Ganymede chose the default as their birthdate.

Cheating v non-cheating, we've already established isn't the answer. And as to whether your group changes if you cheat, it doesn't.

Also, AL: it doesn't work the first time through--you need to open the test, run it through (you can even cancel the game) and then the second time the spacebar still works.

Another thing I noticed:
You don't get assigned a group until you take Test 1 (although it does say current group, so I'm guessing it will change as time goes on).

I'm guessing that the group division is either random, or based on something in the original test--some combination of answers or something like that.

[Sharice]

I remember seeing that date as the default birthday when I signed up. Wonder if that does have any significance, either with this or something else? I would have thought that the fields where you put your birthdate in would be blank?

I think the groups may just be randomly assigned. I can't think of any significance that the names have either.

[paladin]

So you can cheat? Wow so test one is invalid...unless that is part of the test to figure out who the cheaters are.

BTW Ganymede with 85 my best score and no cheating.

[theIslandMadeMeDoIt]

I'm in Ganymeade, i'm male (not sure if that has any relevance), and I scored an 85 as my best score.

[Who is this hermano]

I didn't cheat got an 80 and Im a Pandora. It may also know how many times you took the test, maybe an Avg insted of a high score?

[DrinkDharmaBeer]

ok update:

my original name: 99 high with cheat, played at least 40 times, used my actual info for profile (mar 1980 bday), female, answered enrollment test honestly, invited 2 alter egos and got 20 Dpoints, PANDORA

alter ego 1: 57 high no cheat, played once, used default birthday, female, answered mostly A's & 2 B's in enrollment test, 0 Dharma points, GANYMEDE

alter ego 2: 58 high no cheat, played once, oct 1960 bday, female, anwered all D's on enrollment test, 0 Dpoints, PANDORA

[jska108]

i'm in pandora and didn't cheat with an 80

[Jakedog60]

I'm in Pandora 79% without the cheat 98% with.

[Lost Soul]

Pandora, score of 77, no recruiting. :D

[planetmaker]

Pandora, cheating 99 no cheating 78, me male

From reading the posts on here there seems no correlation between cheating/no cheating, male/female, or anything else.

[Lockes missing hair]

I am in Pandora with a score of 70% without cheating
and 0 Dharma points.

[corbienne]

I'm in Pandora with a score of 99% using the cheat.

So maybe it's a combination of the first enrollment test and test 1.. I guess time will tell and are these two going to be the only groups or are they going to divide us further down the line?

I agree about the combination thing. I'm actually thinking that so far these results are based more on the entry test than on Test 1, seeing as how the results are so diverse.

I also think we will get divided even further down the line.

Curious though. We had been expecting Jupiter's moons to come into play, and now we have Ganymede. But Pandora is just another character from mythology, not a moon, right? So maybe we need to forget about Jupiter and concentrate on the mythology side of things instead. Lord knows they've alluded to it enough already. Hmmm...

(And apologies if we're already chatting about this elsewhere. I didn't see it in this thread, but there are several others I have to get caught up on. I've been a busy gal the past couple of days. :p)

[theotherbilly]

Is anyone collating this team data?
I'm in Pandora with 100% spacebar cheat.

[CTS]

I bet it isn't a good thing to cheat. What if there are repercussions in the future of the ARG?

The DI doesn't like cheaters...;)

[Who is this hermano]

Sounds completely random, which would make sense making the teams an even 50/50.
If they go by initial test result to make teams, who knows maybe they would end up 90/10. I'm not sure what the teams do, but they probably just want them to have close to the same amount of people on both sides.

Why even do the test then you ask?
Because we will do anything ABC says is related to Lost and makes us feel involved in the selection process.:D

[Bunny15]

ganymede with and 85 female.

I have been unable to create alter ego accounts.. I also recruited a alter friend but haven't gotten an e-mail or anything to play???

[jerseyguy]

You can't cheat anymore :D They've taken out the space bar thing so that's impossible. But I know people on both side that have cheated so....
when i 1st log in, the space bar doesn't work. i have to take the test once, then it works after that. (or i can go in, start and cancel the 1st test, then it works after that)

[bpc908]

Pandora with 20 Dharma Points

[Bunny15]

my alter cheated bunny (finally able to make one)... recruited cheatingbunny13 they are both pandora.. They both filled out the first test with "happy ans" I however am a ganymede and did the "darker" ans... I haven't gotten anything about a special test for recruiting someone.

Will see...

[Rjinswand]

Possible implications of the group names:

Pandora: box
Ganymede: cup

Pandora: opened the box and unleashed evils and hope into the world, sounds like scientist

Ganymede: brought the Gods drinks and food, sounds like a waiter, Workman anyone?

[Bunny15]

Pandora in Greek mythology = first woman a beautiful evil

Ganymede in Greek mythology = divine hero, beloved of zeus.

good vs evil??
Man/woman

The only thing I have noticed is that my two alters picked the more positive answers in the test, they are both Pandora. I however did pick all the more negative answers and am a Ganymede. Both opposites of the possible implications of the group names.
:confused::confused:

[wildgeese]

i'm pandora in cheat and no-cheat alter-egos, both. does not seem score dependent to me....

i'd like to invite more riffing on what possible things can pandora and ganymede have in common as groups, (and why are there only two?!!:confused:)

* they are both moons (pandora is a "shepherd moon" of saturn, ganymede is jupiter's largest moon)
* they are both greek mythological characters (who implicate zeus' distaste for women; and as rjinswand pointed out are associated with the containers cup and box, and bunny15 the masculine/feminine good/evil dichotomies)
* in literature, characters who break out of gender roles (arcane, shakespeare and lyly)
*they're both bands (more arcane stuff. indie and synthpop)

what else??

[2, 4, 9, 12, 18, 27, 54]

Pandora Group it's the best!! 80% Score

[Sawyers_Stash]

I'm in Pandora. 76 with no cheating. I'm a lady. My birthday is in February..
Could it have something to do with your birthday?

[2, 4, 9, 12, 18, 27, 54]

there's gonna be some clue for the teams Pandora - Ganymede
BIRTHDAY - MONTH - DAY - SCORE - ID CODE -
something like that

[YouIsMyConstant]

I got into Pandora with 85% not cheating and then 98% cheating.

[Bunny15]

my latest friend alter deadbunny, a man, 76 on test, birthdate default, no spacebar is pandora also. My 3 latest "friends all joining today are pandora. I joined the first day 7/28 am ganymede. Running out of "friends to join" it won't take any e-mail addresses that are similar to mine..

[2, 4, 9, 12, 18, 27, 54]

it's the year! because i have one user with the year 1989 and other with 1921
1989 - Pandora and 1921 - Ganymede
with the same 17 answers in test, but the ID card number ever change so... i dont know XD

[ipris]

Ganymede

[Judas Booth]

I'm Ganymede with 81% and no cheating. By the way, have you noticed that using the cheat means pressing space to stop time? Maybe it's a subtle clue! :D

[HenryGale666]

I have two, both Ganymede... i was so hoping to get Pandora on the second one...

Oh well, Team Ganymede's gonna kick your sorry Pandora asses :)

[HenryGale666]

it's the year! because i have one user with the year 1989 and other with 1921
1989 - Pandora and 1921 - Ganymede
with the same 17 answers in test, but the ID card number ever change so... i dont know XD

So maybe odd years = Ganymede, even Pandora...? Both my guys are odd years, and both Ganymedes... does anyone not fit this pattern?


I'm Ganymede with 81% and no cheating. By the way, have you noticed that using the cheat means pressing space to stop time? Maybe it's a subtle clue! :D

a-ha, i hadn't thought of that... very clever


p.s. sorry for the double post

[k3lvInI5aLiV3]

Just got word..... Sm0k3y registered and he has been assigned to Pandora....

I'd hold off on those victory chants :)

[neo12345292]

YAY.. PATTERN UNFITTING :D i'm in ganymede and born an even year o_O.. 85 no spacebar (idk if it's really cheating) on ganymede, and with spacebar 99 EDIT(now an 100 :D) ganymede.... watch how pandora becomes the superphysicists and ganymede becomes the EEEEEVIL underlings

[YouAllEverybody21]

YAY.. PATTERN UNFITTING :D i'm in ganymede and born an even year o_O.. 85 no spacebar (idk if it's really cheating) on ganymede, and with spacebar 99 ganymede.... watch how pandora becomes the superphysicists and ganymede becomes the EEEEEVIL underlings

Purge? :p:D


I'm Ganymede, high score 70? (i think?) without spacebar and 99 with .. female, born january 1988

I can't tell so far from the posts that theres anything correlating unless it's birthdates ..

Edit: I was reading the Ganymede myth on wiki and went to the disambiguities ... theres "Ganymed (band), a 70s and 80s Austrian disco group" but there's no article for it ... (I'm totally grabbing here lol)

[Lost Rabbi]

I'm pretty sure at this point that we're not going to be able to figure out how they did the division...and I think that as our group assignments change as we go through the program (so to speak), it will probably become clearer.

I will also put out there that I'm not sure that the tests and placement and all that are what this ARG will be about in the long run...

[Chioma]

Possible implications of the group names:

Pandora: box
Ganymede: cup

Pandora: opened the box and unleashed evils and hope into the world, sounds like scientist

Ganymede: brought the Gods drinks and food, sounds like a waiter, Workman anyone?

LOL

well, the last update to the progress box said that we'd be able to see our scores and the job we were currently qualified for didn't it?

appears score and leaderboard is only based on how many people we recruit...weird or lame?...i can't decide...

the two group classifications, there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason so are they code names for jobs?...guess well have to wait and see if more groups are added once we take more tests and score more nonexistant points...:rolleyes:



:D TEAM PANDORA!!

[k3lvInI5aLiV3]

It's interesting they have "recruiting" as their whole focus but its "us" that are being asked to bring in more recruits, lol.

[jska108]

Okay, our assignments WILL change, it says "current group". CURRENT

[ItsAKey]

[QUOTE=HenryGale666;975752]So maybe odd years = Ganymede, even Pandora...? Both my guys are odd years, and both Ganymedes... does anyone not fit this pattern?

No mine's an even year and I'm Ganymede

[ItsAKey]

Okay, our assignments WILL change, it says "current group". CURRENT


Wonder if it'll change on every test?

[Hannah1984]

I got 61% not cheating (didn't know you could cheat) and I'm in Ganymede.

[atwa36]

Ganymede.

[kosmomerz]

I've cheated and I'm in Pandora. And it seems to be significant to cheat or not.

I've got an email reply by Dan (http://merzmensch.blogspot.com/2008/08/dharma-initiative-mail-von-dan.html). I asked him, whether he knows about Pandora group, since I've cheated and am in.

He answered:

you should not have cheated. Re-read the story of Pandora, and how you should resist opening the box (using the cheat)

your for it now !

And look to his Facebook:
his latest message on his own wall is:

To all other Ganymede's, well done for resisting the tesmtation of opening Pandora's Box.

Ganymede has it's own internal magentic power creation.

Bad luck to all Pandoras

So we see now the clear opposition:
Ganymedes (fair game) versus Pandora (cheater).

(Sorry for crossposting, I posed this text as Merzmensch already in darkufo blog)

[Sharice]

I do see the whole Pandora = cheating, Ganymede = not cheating thing, but I have a score of 84, without cheating and I'm in Pandora.

I don't think that can be the theme to the divisions.

[booradley]

I signed up twice and cheated with both usernames. One is Ganymede and one Pandora.

[MageRage]

I've cheated and I'm in Pandora. And it seems to be significant to cheat or not.

I've got an email reply by Dan (http://merzmensch.blogspot.com/2008/08/dharma-initiative-mail-von-dan.html). I asked him, whether he knows about Pandora group, since I've cheated and am in.

He answered:

you should not have cheated. Re-read the story of Pandora, and how you should resist opening the box (using the cheat)

your for it now !

And look to his Facebook:
his latest message on his own wall is:

To all other Ganymede's, well done for resisting the tesmtation of opening Pandora's Box.

Ganymede has it's own internal magentic power creation.

Bad luck to all Pandoras

So we see now the clear opposition:
Ganymedes (fair game) versus Pandora (cheater).

(Sorry for crossposting, I posed this text as Merzmensch already in darkufo blog)

I cheated and Im in Ganymede, your post was not well thought out, if you look back at the thread you will see there is NO correlation of cheating

[jpj77]

Ganymede

91 without the space bar, 100 with the space bar.

[Ya1smine]

I'm in Ganymede, 83, without cheating, without recruting.

[threvester]

ganymede 78/99

[Who is this hermano]

Look at the Poll, I bet it's just random, they want both sides to have the same amount of people. A 10 person deference on a 90 person sample that is to close not to be a split right down the middle just putting enough people on both sides. When we get closer to a 500 person sample I bet it will only be about a 1 or 2 percentage point deference from one team to the next. Then we know it’s just randon

[PseuMdoYnym]

I got an 86 without cheating, a 99 with the cheat. I wouldn't have used the cheat initially but the space bar with the whole "press space to stop time" and the fact that it seemed like too much of an oversight for them to forget to remove any beta testing code, I thought it was meant to be discovered and used. Ooops. :o

I'm in Ganymede btw. No Dharma points, I don't like that whole idea so I'm not participating with it.

[Paul Artisan]

Ganymede...cheated...and got a 99 score.

I invited a few friends...they registered..played the game...but I got 0 dharma points?
Anyone else having that problem?

[Ya1smine]

So maybe odd years = Ganymede, even Pandora...? Both my guys are odd years, and both Ganymedes... does anyone not fit this pattern?

I was thinking something like this.
Odd scores = Ganymede
Even scores = Pandora

Anyone prove me wrong?

[Sharice]

Yeah, I invited one person, they played the test a few times but I still haven't got any Dharma Points. Unless they have to register as well, which my person didn't do yet. Maybe then we'd get the points?

I like the idea of odd and even scores, but would it be that simple? I'm Pandora, originally with an 80, which then improved to 82, 83 and then 84. I stayed in the same group however.

[bpc908]

Yeah, I invited one person, they played the test a few times but I still haven't got any Dharma Points. Unless they have to register as well, which my person didn't do yet. Maybe then we'd get the points?

I like the idea of odd and even scores, but would it be that simple? I'm Pandora, originally with an 80, which then improved to 82, 83 and then 84. I stayed in the same group however.

Yes the person has to register in order for the recruiter (you) to get points

[Sharice]

Thanks :)

[smitty4815162342]

I was thinking something like this.
Odd scores = Ganymede
Even scores = Pandora

Anyone prove me wrong?

Yes 1989 = Pandora :p

Ok I have been away and missed alot.

I have not cheated (cheating is wrong) , 85%
Year - 1989
gender - male
Dharma points - 0

Go Team Pandora.

**edit**

Could it be you are in Pandora if you do the test without cheating the first try?

Or

Ganamede (sp?) if you cheat the first time?

[YouAllEverybody21]

I did the test probably 20 times before spacebar and im in ganymede ... i hope someone is collecting all this and graphing it or something lol

[ItsAKey]

Haha. Yes, someone should be taking notes and make a spreadsheet.
Any takers? :p

[k3lvInI5aLiV3]

I think someone already is... so far no difinitive conclusion.

[SteelX]

Pandora. But the test name is telling you to 'cheat'. Pressurized spatial = press space. But I didn't. Did the test 3 or 4 times and ended with a 71. Screwed up the first couple because I was trying to figure out how to fit ALL the pieces in the box.

[YouAllEverybody21]

yeah I think I failed like 5 times until i finally got like .. 34 lol

[Zen Island]

People are forgetting what group you're in may also depend on your answers to the first test.

[Aspcia]

I'm in group ganymede.....

On the first test my answers were pretty mundane (i.e. my first answer was 'turn')...

And on the second test I got 80 w/o the ....er.... shortcut. Then right before I was about to destroy my laptop I took the ....shortcut..... and got 98.

oh yah... no dharma points.

[DrinkDharmaBeer]

People are forgetting what group you're in may also depend on your answers to the first test.

i think that is possible. i created 2 alter egos and answered almost all As (2 B's i think) with one and all D's with the other. the first ended up in Ganymede and the second in Pandora. my original name is in Pandora too, but i don't remember all the choices i made on the first test.

if it is based on the enrollment test, it would be tough to figure out.

[kosmomerz]

I cheated and Im in Ganymede, your post was not well thought out, if you look back at the thread you will see there is NO correlation of cheating

Well, you're perhaps right about no correlation of cheating. I was just wondering about this mail of Dan, who pointed out this correlation. Since he seems to be IG character there are two possibilities: either there is a correlation (and Dan is right about it), or there is no correlation (and Dan is trying to irritate people).

[TimeTravelingBunny]

I've posted this in the DHARMAWANTSYOU.COM (http://forum.lostpedia.com/showthread.php?p=978333#post978333) thread, but I think it should be said in here:

I don't think that we are placed in groups depending on our performance on the Elligibility Test. If our grouping depends on the Elligibility Test, then our group name would be next to the Elligibility test in the progress section, not Test 1.

[neoneyed]

I am Ganymede, I was ganymede with a score of 75 no cheating, I just got a score of 99 with cheating. I don't have any dharma points.

[jackswhiterabbit]

79% in Ganymede no cheating and I'm a chick :o)

[paladin]

This is all one big test to test our abilites, personalities, IQ, etc. I am sure the cheating was put in on purpose which reveals a lot about ones personality.

I am sure there will be more groups down the road. It looks like right now it looks like they just randomly put you in one of two groups. It's just too close to a 50/50 split.

[number 6]

I'm in Ganymede with an 80.

[Isle Guardian]

I'm in pandora with a 85%

[neo12345292]

I was thinking something like this.
Odd scores = Ganymede
Even scores = Pandora

Anyone prove me wrong?
85 ganymede :D

i actually think it might be, for now, the eligibility test that decides where we go at least somewhat... it could be that depending on your answers for the eligibility test and also your test 1 best non-cheat score you are placed. as lost rabbi (i think) said "your group doesn't show up until you take test 1"

i just noticed that nobody thought of this... lousy internet ppl... you're supposed to know everything yourselves...

[Whispers16]

74% - no cheating (obviously, lol) - Pandora group.

-Carol :cool:

[TakeMeToTheIsland]

Pandora - 88%

[Oggylu]

pandora here :)

[Apocolyptika]

I dont know how we can even begin to graph or chart this.. other then the poll appears to be almost split up. Is it that simple? I don't think so. They must still have some sort of equation to say x=pandora y=ganymede it's just so random i can't determine what those requirements are. It might not even be relevant to the game just a programmers equation.
We have the space bar pressers, and the non pressers
we have the high scores the low scores
we have the males and the females
we have our birthdays
we have our eligibility answers
we have how many times we tried the test
we have our profile answers
how soon we signed up
im sure many more.. so until this thing progresses further i don't think we can figure it out :confused:

[smitty4815162342]

It must be random. I open two accounts earlier, done the exact same thing in both and what happened?..... different groups.

[jerseyguy]

My guess is that every other new candidate will go to Pandora, and vice versa for Ganymede. I'll test it. Ok, for the next 30 minutes, no one in the whole world create new accounts....just me. Got it? Thanks. I'll let you know. ;)

[Apocolyptika]

If that's the case then they are just going by logs of when people registered in the beginning? Most of us signed on even at the same time lol desperately trying to get in. Somehow I don't think it's that simple..

[DrinkDharmaBeer]

ok,so it was mentioned in the darmawantsyou.com thread that someone's group was changed! has this happened to anyone else???

[efialto]

So... possible variables weighted to determine group:
Sex
Date of Birth: Horoscope, Age, Month?
Question test
Spatial test
Cheating in the spatial test
Dharma Points
Recruit type

Anything else?. In my case:
Sex - male
Age - 27, Libra
Question test: the first thing that comes to my mind, i decided to take it as fast as i can... let my subsconcious to work; so i can hardly remember the answers :)
Spatial test: 75%, my average should be no better than 60%, along around 50 tries
Cheating: no
Dharma Points: 0
Recruit type: normal (no comic con, etc)

Group: Ganymede

Seeing the posts, i will say than the spatial test has a low weight in determining the group, i guess that is the Question test the most important, maybe with relevance of date of birth, sex and cheating (if they put it there on purpose)

We could put a tab delimited file with all the variables, so people put in there its entry and try to use statistics to see the correlations... Although, of course, that sounds too freakish!

[corbienne]

We could put a tab delimited file with all the variables, so people put in there its entry and try to use statistics to see the correlations... Although, of course, that sounds too freakish!

Not too freakish, efialto. After all, they did use some kind of voice print software to prove that Faraday is the cameraman in the Chang video. (here (http://forum.lostpedia.com/showthread.php?t=17757))

If you have the means to set it up, do it! I'll go put in my stats, as will most people here, I'd bet. :)

[YouAllEverybody21]

looks like we're starting to even out with our poll numbers, im starting to lean more and more towards the random 50/50 thing .........
although someone switching groups totally throws a wrench into that one:rolleyes:

[Who is this hermano]

I have been wondering since page 3, I bet it’s random.

Now way in the world people from all over the country or even all over the world score 50% on one side and 50% on the other. I was thinking the bigger the sample we get the closer we will get to 50/50. The tests are just to make us feel like they are putting us into groups. I will even steal a quote from the show.

Ben “Same things that all the DHARMA stations are for... (flips paper) silly experiments.”


You guessed it the test means nothing, just another silly experiment.

[efialto]

I have said it since page 3, it’s random.

Probably that's true... but to be 50/50 does not necessarily means that. Maybe they score people, and then use quantile 50 to split them in two.
And even if it's random... it's fun to make theories, isn't it? isn't that the whole point about lost, and specially about the lost experience? :)

I've opened a post to make an statistical experiment, nothing brilliant, just a game:
http://forum.lostpedia.com/showthread.php?t=17879

[Lost Rabbi]

what if it's connected to the mean of all of your scores, at the time that you were assigned to a group? Or your score the first time you took the test?

[goodkarma]

I wonder if the two groups have anything to do with 'good' and 'evil'. Maybe we are placed in the groups based on our responses to the recruitment test. Perhaps there are certain 'good' and 'evil' responses and those place you in a certain group. If that is the case then I feel the Ganymede group represents 'good' and the Pandora group is 'evil', just based on what they mean in myths. And since 'good' and 'evil' is a constant theme in LOST they may be trying to determine that with the tests. Just a thought...

[Who is this hermano]

OK here is my take on this after an afternoon with my car in the shop and nothing else to do.

I have picked up on a few key words, but first, can we all agree at this point in the game the most logical guess is ABC is just randomly putting us into the two groups and making them 50/50, just to start the game?

Ok now on the key words
If you look on the site it says current group, current being the key word. Most likely meaning we can change groups or ABC can make up all new names. If this is not the case why use to word current meaning the present only, making the future capable of change.

Second not so much a key word as a key phrase. Pressurized Spatial Judgment Evaluation.

We know that Pressurized Spatial = press spacebar and pressing the space lets you cheat. So now lets rearrange it and put together an evaluation of press spacebar/ cheating judgment or lets evaluate if your judgment lets you cheat or not. Is that a pretty fair breakdown from the original Pressurized Spatial Judgment Evaluation?

Most tests especially IQ or puzzle type tests don’t let you take them over and over again. Of course you will score higher with the more practice you have, completely taking your puzzle solving skills out of the equation and simply testing if you have the time or will to practice. So my guess is ABC is not testing how fast you can solve the puzzle, but wants to evaluate if your judgment will allow you to cheat.

I say this because DHARMA from Lost is not straight forward with anything! From lying about the work they did at each station to the Pearl and the note book drop in the middle of nowhere. The stations all had a twist to them, so why would this be any deferent?

So I’m guessing the only thing from this point they take into account is cheating from test one. However it is not enough of a personality sample to group us quite yet.

What we do know is Dharma for some reason loves Greek mythology as it is littered throughout the show and now into the ARG.


P.S.
I have no idea if cheating or pressing the space is wrong, right or means something we can't figure out yet.

P.s.s
OK this might be all for not I just took this post for it's word without checking myself
Pandora. But the test name is telling you to 'cheat'. Pressurized spatial = press space. .
Can you tell me why?

[Who is this hermano]

what if it's connected to the mean of all of your scores, at the time that you were assigned to a group? Or your score the first time you took the test?

I think someone has posted they took all the tests with deferent logins answered exactly the same and was put into deferent groups.

I wonder if the two groups have anything to do with 'good' and 'evil'. Maybe we are placed in the groups based on our responses to the recruitment test. Perhaps there are certain 'good' and 'evil' responses and those place you in a certain group. If that is the case then I feel the Ganymede group represents 'good' and the Pandora group is 'evil', just based on what they mean in myths. And since 'good' and 'evil' is a constant theme in LOST they may be trying to determine that with the tests. Just a thought...

I answered mostly in what I would consider good ways in the recruitment test I defiantly didn’t answer (I hate to use this word, but for a lack of a better term) the evil way and got Pandora

[Lost Rabbi]

I think someone has posted they took all the tests with deferent logins answered exactly the same and was put into deferent groups.

But it would be really hard, nearly impossible, to make it so that your score on taking the test the first time (you have to go through it once before space works) was the same each time.

[Who is this hermano]

But it would be really hard, nearly impossible, to make it so that your score on taking the test the first time (you have to go through it once before space works) was the same each time.

It must be random. I open two accounts earlier, done the exact same thing in both and what happened?..... different groups.

I don't know how ture this is.

[neo12345292]

anybody even pay attention to my idea? lol o_O

[an other]

82 - Pandora.


If your top score changes does your group change?

[YouAllEverybody21]

I answered mostly in what I would consider good ways in the recruitment test I defiantly didn’t answer (I hate to use this word, but for a lack of a better term) the evil way and got Pandora

I made two accounts, one answered 'evilly' and got pandora, the other answered not so evil, but not happy 'candy' etc and got ganymede

[Ya1smine]

If your top score changes does your group change?
Not with me.

I made two accounts, one answered 'evilly' and got pandora, the other answered not so evil, but not happy 'candy' etc and got ganymede
Me too. I thought it was a point system. If you stole the kid's toy because you're a kid yourself, you get 1 point, if you stole it because the kid choked on it, you get 4 points. Etc. They take the average, when you're above it, you're in Ganymede (I say that cause I'm in Ganymede of course :D), below it, you're in Pandora. When you cheat, you lose points. That's why some seem to have changed groups after cheating, but not all.
Being in Pandora doesn't make you evil of course, just your points below average. :p It could mean they're just more risky. Try to change things. It's true, changing the past is like cheating too.
And Ganymede = workmen.

With every test you have a chance to change groups, that's why it says "current".

That's what I think, currently, but I'll wait and see (that I'm wrong. As usual. :cool:)

[Flyin' High]

I have been wondering about something and haven't seen it mentioned (though it could have been brought up in the massive DHARMAWANTSYOU.COM thread that I've had a hard time sifting through).

Sometimes when I take the first test, I end up using all of the pieces and while other times I have one or two left. When I use all of the pieces it's because I've done a little bit of overlapping and then as soon as I finish the test, the two pieces that were overlapped light up white while all of the others remain blue (this happens right before it takes you back to the instructions screen). Has anyone else noticed this? I was wondering if perhaps our groups were based on whether or not you used all of the pieces or had some remaining.

Then again, maybe this has only happened to me.

[DrinkDharmaBeer]

I have been wondering about something and haven't seen it mentioned (though it could have been brought up in the massive DHARMAWANTSYOU.COM thread that I've had a hard time sifting through).

Sometimes when I take the first test, I end up using all of the pieces and while other times I have one or two left. When I use all of the pieces it's because I've done a little bit of overlapping and then as soon as I finish the test, the two pieces that were overlapped light up white while all of the others remain blue (this happens right before it takes you back to the instructions screen). Has anyone else noticed this? I was wondering if perhaps our groups were based on whether or not you used all of the pieces or had some remaining.

Then again, maybe this has only happened to me.

i have done that. the extra pieces click in like when you put the right pieces where they belong, so i tried it a bunch of times. i haven't noticed anything happen though. . .

[Who is this hermano]

I have been wondering about something and haven't seen it mentioned (though it could have been brought up in the massive DHARMAWANTSYOU.COM thread that I've had a hard time sifting through).

Sometimes when I take the first test, I end up using all of the pieces and while other times I have one or two left. When I use all of the pieces it's because I've done a little bit of overlapping and then as soon as I finish the test, the two pieces that were overlapped light up white while all of the others remain blue (this happens right before it takes you back to the instructions screen). Has anyone else noticed this? I was wondering if perhaps our groups were based on whether or not you used all of the pieces or had some remaining.

Then again, maybe this has only happened to me.

Nope every time I took it I had two left

[Lost Rabbi]

looking at the instructions for test 2...I'm wondering if test 1 also depends on the first time that you take it...does anyone remember their test 1 result from the first time they took it? I definitely don't...I wonder if our group depends on that...

[Flyin' High]

The first time I took test 1 I was trying to use my laptop mouse and I didn't even finish the test in the minute you're given. I got much faster after that though. I guess it is possible that it took the first score. If that's the case, I miserably failed and was put into Pandora. However, if it goes off your highest score, mine was an 81.

[YouAllEverybody21]

I also failed miserably at least 3 times before i got the hang of it ... and scored 34. lol ALSO on a laptop .. (in my defense :p) and i was put in Ganymede. my highest score w/o cheat was 71

[PsychoYoshi]

I'm sure there are other details about the two as well .. even if it was based on the ones who pressed the space bar and the ones who didn't.. what made them choose those names?

I don't think it was based on whether you cheated or not, or at the very least, it's not the sole factor.

My best score without cheating was 78, and my best with cheating was 99; both dropped me in Ganymede.

Normal account: My first test score was in the mid-60s, and I was placed in Ganymede. I improved my score into the high 70s without cheats, and it didn't change. Then I cheated and got a score of 99, still no group change.
Alt account: Cheated on the first try, got a score of 99, got placed in Ganymede.

Seems like there are high-scorers and low-scorers in each group, which is kind of bizarre, although reading through the posts it seems that most Pandoras bombed their first run-through, so I personally think Ganymede is the better of the two.

As for test 2, I'd say that it's fairly obvious that Polyphemus is the best group because he's from the Odyssey instead of Theogony.
Main account: Steropes (got most right aside from question 10, I think)
Alt account: Polyphemus (nailed pretty much everything including question 10)

[Apocolyptika]

Ok so what is the answer to
What is the answer to this question?
A:A
B:B
c:c
D:D