5x01 Because You Left

[tohdom]

Lost Rewatch Episode Discussion for "Because You Left"
(Nov 9 - Nov 15)

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Because_You_Left

[Simon]

Best line of this episode was Sawyer when he slapped Daniel, and Charlotte argued.

"Shut it ginger or you're getting one too!"

[karategrrl]

We started watching then the neighbor came over...I'll have to finish another night.

I did notice...Was Miles's dad wearing a swan jacket? I thought it looked like it, but I couldn't go back to that spot. If he was, that was before they named it, wasn't it?

[tohdom]

this thing cracked me up! ))

RICHARD: It's a compass.
LOCKE: What does it do?
RICHARD: It points north, John

[JulietDetonatesMyHeart]

Originally Posted by Simon

Best line of this episode was Sawyer when he slapped Daniel, and Charlotte argued.

"Shut it ginger or you're getting one too!"

That was the only time that I ever really HATED Sawyer. Very disrespectful of both Dan and Charlotte. P.S. Charlotte could totally have taken Sawyer.

This was also when I started to notice "something" between Juliet and Sawyer. I pretty much called it in this episode that they were going to get together.

[MM0602]

Yaaa, Pierre was wearing a Swan coat. I think season 5 had the most continuity errors. I guess I can forgive it because of how complicated time travel must be to deal with for writers.

Anyways, I think I liked this episode a bit less on rewatch. I'm not sure why, it was well paced and doesn't waste time in answering questions. I didn't dislike it but I guess it was more exciting having no idea what was going to happen. Anyway, it was interesting to watch Locke's scene with Richard knowing what happens at the end of the season. So ya, good episode. Just a bit less exciting the second time around I guess, haha.

[Jacob'sWiseOldMother]

Not a bad episode to start season 5. A lot of things are interesting to watch now that we have more information as to why some things happened. I liked the time travel and it was fun to guess what time period they were in. It also helped to take notes to keep track of what was going on!

Dr. Chang and baby Miles! Many of us guessed that one easily but of course had to wait for confirmation at the end of the season. There were lots of fun clues to try to figure out the date of the year. Willie Nelson's song was released in 1973, the record player, no microwave to heat the baby bottle, and baby was wearing cloth diapers. But the best part in the beginning was seeing Daniel again and wondering what the heck was going on!

Ben becomes Jacks new caregiver off island and sobers him up pretty quick. Thank goodness we get to see Jack shave off that horrible beard! Ben is his usual self lying about things to Jack when he asks about Ben last seeing John. Ben is already working his plan to do what he needs to help himself right back onto the island.

Another guess I had was that Ben was behind the lawyers at Kate's house. No surprise there when that was revealed. He knew exactly what she would do....run. Making her paranoid is what Ben wanted and got.

I didn't like how angry TPTB made Sawyer at the beginning of this season. He seemed like the old Sawyer and I felt that he was already past that by now. I guess TPTB wanted to use Juliet as the rational, calm person to help Sawyer become the leader of the group eventually.

I loved the time flashes! What a unique way to have these people travel through time on the island. I thought it was interesting to put John right there when the Nigerian plane crashed. He tries to climb up and could have changed things but Ethan was there to shoot him and make a course correction. I also made a connection again about the first season when John can't walk and Boone must help him. Once again, John loses his ability to walk after being shot but this time it is Richard who helps him recover.

I still like Charles but he is a very, powerful guy. Having people who work for him at the airport surprised me. Charles never seems to really "hurt" anyone but is always willing to talk. We get to see Sun play hardball with this guy and I really like the "new" Sun!

What would a new season be without Sayid fighting off some bad guys! Once again, Hurley gets teamed up with another character to give us some comic relief mixed in with all the other serious things going on.

Daniel gives everyone the whatever happened, happened speech. I love how he tells Sawyer that "we can't stop it" and Sawyer says, "Then who can?" TPTB cut to John in the jungle. That's who will stop it and save them all.

The scene with Richard showing up to help John seemed so strange at the time but it was brilliant how TPTB went right back to explain. We get to see the compass....that chicken or egg dilemma.

Then to finish it all up, TPTB give us the Desmond element. He is there in the Swan and when Daniel looks in his journal, I think he is looking at the page that says Desmond Hume is my constant. This is Daniel's chance to "connect" to someone during this time travel and hopefully get them all some help before it's too late. He knows that they can't survive and Charlotte looks to be the first victim by her nose bleeding. Desmond has whatever special abilities the hatch implosion gave him so he is now recalling this "memory" through time that Daniel told him. I was really curious too about Oxford and Daniel's mother, the now infamous Eloise Hawkings.

[cravens86]

has anybody realized the way they changed some stuff for the dvd?
When this first aired the lost logo didn't come on screen until 11 minutes in after faraday talks about the camp disappearing now it has it right after they show daniel in 1977

[Dr. Chameleon]

I think the big unanswered question from this episode is "why do Richard and the Others not move through time?" And if Juliet and Locke are both "Others" now why would they behave differently? Lacking anything substantial to go on, I'm guessing it has something to do with the Temple and getting a full-on Others conversion, although you'd think with Juliet's Latin-speaking and ass-kicking abilities that she would be considered "one of them."

To a lesser degree, I was wondering if Ethan says the idea that Ben would appoint Locke their leader is "ridiculous" because (a) Ben doesn't have that kind of power (Alpert does) or (b) because he knows that Ben would never give up his position. I like to think it's more along those lines than just the simple fact that he doesn't know who in the heck Locke is.

Richard acknowledges the healing power of the island when he's bandaging Locke up: "the island will take care of the rest."

The rest of you have already commented on the other interesting tidbits (that Locke will stop the time-shifting and the big reveal that Alpert was only telling Locke what Flocke told him to say). I hadn't noticed that fact that Desmond seems to see/hear the flash happening while Alpert and Ethan don't. I'm also assuming Ben sent the men after Hurley and Sayid, but is that ever specifically established either by the show or by the creators? I was sort of turned-off by the over-the-top violence and silly, Hitchcock quality to that part of the story, but then it sort of fits Hurley's character. However, I won't forgive the cheesy, canned "baby gurgle" noise at the beginning of the episode.

[Richard Was Here]

Originally Posted by Dr. Chameleon

I think the big unanswered question from this episode is "why do Richard and the Others not move through time?" And if Juliet and Locke are both "Others" now why would they behave differently? Lacking anything substantial to go on, I'm guessing it has something to do with the Temple and getting a full-on Others conversion, although you'd think with Juliet's Latin-speaking and ass-kicking abilities that she would be considered "one of them."

This is a VERY good question - particularly as it relates to Juliet. Locke, I'm not as worried about because he still had one foot in the pool and one foot out of the pool at this point. But Juliet was the genuine Others article.