4x08 Meet Kevin Johnson

[tohdom]

Lost Rewatch Episode Discussion for "Meet Kevin Johnson"
(Oct 26 - Nov 1)

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Meet_Kevin_Johnson

[Dr. Chameleon]

So Miles knows that they're supposed to get Ben and kill everyone else. Who else knows? Frank, Dan, Charlotte? Naomi was an awfully good actor when she was hanging out with all these people who were about to die...

It seems wrong that Karl doesn't know about the temple, though I'm not surprised when Ben says that it's "not for" the 815 survivors.

This might be reaching too much, but is it really "the island" that won't let Michael be killed, or are there island powers that Ben can tap into to make things happen, regardless of Jacob?

Tom says "some of us" can travel on and off the island. This apparently takes place between his time at the Hydra and the Barracks. Who else can travel, and who decides?

Miles apparently has some psychic powers in addition to his ghost-whispering. We see it here with Michael and again with Charlotte at the end of the season.

Isn't it strange that Frank was investigating his dead pilot friend (Seth Norris), yet he never asks the survivors about him once?

I expected the freighter folk to have a little bit of onminous creepiness about them, like the Others used to, but Keamy & co. shooting stuff seem more like hillbillies than a geniune threat.

Ben lies about his willingness to kill innocent people (see: his attempt to set off the Tempest gas, letting Alex die, letting Keamy die so the boat blew up, etc.). Speaking of which, did he know that Danielle and Karl would die when he sent them off to the temple? And why would he let Danielle go to the temple if he wouldn't let Sawyer, Hurley, et. al. go?

I'm also wondering if Libby & whispers are "real" or just a product of Michael's guilt.

[imbeanie]

A quick one, until I catch up my rewatch: I wondered about Lapidus, too, and the "why" of his interest in Norris, beyond mere guilt that it was supposed to be himself. Lapidus' coming to the island may have been some sort of course correction, and of course, he is considered a "candidate" by Ilana and Bram. I think there's more to his story, for sure. (Or it could be as simple as: he did ask the survivors about Norris, but we as an audience were just not privy to those moments.)

[Dr. Chameleon]

Originally Posted by imbeanie

A quick one, until I catch up my rewatch: I wondered about Lapidus, too, and the "why" of his interest in Norris, beyond mere guilt that it was supposed to be himself. Lapidus' coming to the island may have been some sort of course correction, and of course, he is considered a "candidate" by Ilana and Bram. I think there's more to his story, for sure. (Or it could be as simple as: he did ask the survivors about Norris, but we as an audience were just not privy to those moments.)

Sure, but it seems important to his character, so it seems odd they'd omit that.

Right, "candidate." Hmm. Wonder what that's all about. What makes Lapidus in particular a candidate? Oh, these mysteries...

[tohdom]

it is a long shot, but maybe Tom Friendly switched the Michael's gun to the broken one while they fought? Possible, but improbable.

[Dr. Chameleon]

Originally Posted by tohdom

it is a long shot, but maybe Tom Friendly switched the Michael's gun to the broken one while they fought? Possible, but improbable.

Who knows? I just figure it's best not to take anything for granted on this show, although major S6 revelations notwithstanding, there's been a lot of stuff I've questioned that's never really come up again.

[MM0602]

The Temple isn't for the 815 survivors, says Ben, but how come he doesn't object to Danielle going there? Is he just afraid she'll hit him over the head again?

It's so sad how Danielle dies. She seemed untouchable, I mean she survived on her own for 16 years! And in the end she went down so quickly and easily. Who buries her and Karl? I don't think the mercs would take the time to do that, unless Alex somehow talked them into doing it...?

I wonder how Walt's grandma reacted when other survivors of the plane crash showed up on the news?

[Simon]

They would probably bury them to a) not leave tracks for others to follow or b) the whole "things don't stay buried on this island" secret.

I hate the way Danielle dies. Just makes her look a proper fool.

[JulietDetonatesMyHeart]

Originally Posted by Simon

I hate the way Danielle dies. Just makes her look a proper fool.

I know I hate it too. Such a badass character deserved to go down as a fighter.

I just rewatched this episode and even though I quite hated it when it came out (mostly because I abhor Michael), I actually liked it this time around.

[MM0602]

It's true, her death did feel really lame the first time. I was sure she was going to come back until we saw her grave. It gets a bit less lame every time I rewatch though. Still feel she should have had a better death though.