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Old 08-26-2009, 03:32 AM
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I didn't really like the other Michael centrics but I enjoyed this one a lot. I guess because the flashbacks were on-island... sorry Mike! It was really interesting comparing what actually happened with the story he tells the other survivors.

Has it been confirmed whether the Door hatch was made by the Others or by Dharma? I'm guessing the Others made it to confuse enemies, but I'm not sure.
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:01 PM
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:14 PM
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i think there were actually a lot of important things in this episode.

first, we are given more reason to believe something we have seen and been told about many times - walt is special. this is an issue that has been pressed on us throughout the 5 seasons, and i really hope they give us some more answers in season 6.

charlie seems to be getting back on track in this episode - he keeps building the church even without ekos help, he throws away the statues, and gives claire the injection kit. it made me really happy to see claire grab his hand at the funeral.

The scene with jack and sawyer in the hatch:

JACK: I'm sure Hurley will want to say something about Libby.

SAWYER: I never even knew her last name. (there is a pause here) Ana Lucia.

that HAS to have meant something. the writers obviously had plans for libby, and i know we wont get to find out what those were, but there are just so many questions about her. jack mentions libby and sawyer says "i never even knew her last name"...he is talking about ana, but for a second you and jack are left to think he means libby, and we have to wonder....what IS her last name? a pretty major character without any centric episodes and very little background information. such a shame.

i really do like the episodes that flashback to events we have already seen...like the exchange between tom and jack and crew.....i totally forgot about michael being right there...
when michael was talking to walt, i did feel bad for him, although i totally dislike michael...everything he does IS for walt, and in the end he does manage to save him, as we know know hes one of only 2 losties safe and off the island.

aaron has been to far too many funerals for someone who has been alive for such a short time.

sayid knowing michael is lying gives us some hope, along with the ending and suns "boat!"....i wish it had been jin saying it though i love when jin says an english word.
but it is nice that they give us these things to hope on, in spite of the fact that they all fall to shit.
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Old 08-27-2009, 12:19 AM
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The flashbacks were very disappointing. I needed to be convinced that Michael was capable of murder in order to save Walt, and I didn't buy that the events which transpired would push him that far. Especially, that the Others never told him to murder anyone. I know this show is all about choice, but for me, this will always be a case of poor writing, using shock value without earning it.

If they had added a scene of Michael being in that brainwashing room that Karl was in, I could have bought it a bit, or if they had the Others introduce the idea of killing someone in his mind.

Ms. Klugh exemplified why I hated the Others so much... talk about condescending and superior, like she had a right to treat another human being that way.

I liked Charlie for the first time in a long time after this episode, though his disposal of the heroin felt rather anti-climatic.
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Nice connection at the end. "Goodbye Libby" and there immediately is Libby's boat. And repetition of lines tendency- doesn't Susan's lawyer say the same thing as Mrs. Klugh to Mike about not knowing much about his son? I don't think we're meant to like Mrs. Klugh!
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The flashbacks were very disappointing. I needed to be convinced that Michael was capable of murder in order to save Walt, and I didn't buy that the events which transpired would push him that far. Especially, that the Others never told him to murder anyone. I know this show is all about choice, but for me, this will always be a case of poor writing, using shock value without earning it.
Really? I guess we all see different things.....

Michael's motivation to kill isn't the focus of this episode, his motivation to kill has been out in the open since day 1.
Walt's mother died, and his stepfather abandons him. Michael is suddenly thrust into the role of father when he is completely unprepared for (and doesn't really want) the responsibility. We see this in his airport phone call to his mother, asking if she'll take Walt for him (and Walt's accusatory look when he overhears Michael on the phone.)
After the crash, Michael becomes very protective of Walt. But it's all about Michael, it's a selfish concern, and Walt can sense this. Walt becomes a crutch for Michael's crippled self-esteem, a symbol rather than a person. I think this is why Walt gravitates toward Locke- Locke talks to Walt like he's a person, an equal, even if he's still a kid. But Locke never talks down to him. Micheal almost always refers to Walt as "my son" and "my boy". He has a hard time seeing Walt as a separate individual(And he's jealous as hell that Locke seems to be a much better father figure than he is, and that Walt seems to like Locke more.)

So suddenly, Walt is gone, and Michael isn't just worried about Walt, he's having a full-blown identity crisis. After the kidnapping, Michael is increasingly dangerous to the other Losties, because getting Walt back is the only thing that matters to him. A desperate person is easier to manipulate. Michael was manipulated to get "Henry Gale" out of the hatch. The others didn't have to ask him to murder, they were sure he would do whatever it took. Including murder.

And they were right.

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The scene with jack and sawyer in the hatch:

JACK: I'm sure Hurley will want to say something about Libby.

SAWYER: I never even knew her last name. (there is a pause here) Ana Lucia.

that HAS to have meant something. the writers obviously had plans for libby, and i know we wont get to find out what those were, but there are just so many questions about her. jack mentions libby and sawyer says "i never even knew her last name"...he is talking about ana, but for a second you and jack are left to think he means libby, and we have to wonder....what IS her last name? a pretty major character without any centric episodes and very little background information. such a shame.

I agree. I still wish they'd try to stick it in season 6 somewhere, but I'm not getting my hopes up. It seems like a deliberate slap in the face to the fans that they revealed her last name to be "Smith" at this year's ComiCon.
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Random thoughts:

I was also wondering about the Dharma doors -- did the Others make fake ones or grab these from some other as-yet-unseen station? Minor, minor point of interest, though.

More fodder for my theories: Hurley points out that they haven't buried Ana Lucia and Libby yet. I know *why* he says this, but when characters die, the show tends to be very pointed about showing or describing how they are buried (my theory is that bodies that aren't properly disposed of become fodder for the smoke monster to take on their form). A couple of exceptions are Inman and Goodwin, so I might be barking up the wrong tree.

Michael asks Eko if he believes in hell. There are a handful of references to hell throughout the series, but this could be an intentional red herring.

There are so many character parallels with repeated dialogue that it probably doesn't bear mentioning, but Eko says he has work to do much in the way ghost Walt tells Locke he has work to do at the end of S3.

What was the point of taking a blood sample from Michael? To determine paternity? It appears that the Others took samples from Jack and Kate right after they first kidnapped them, too (first ep. of S3).

Glad the heroin plot is finally over!

I know they tell us that Walt was "more than we bargained for," but what was the big deal with capturing him only to let him go? Was it just a matter of wanting all children on the island, and they had no idea about Walt's powers? Kinda makes me think Walt's powers don't have anything to do with the big story.

I suppose if Michael hadn't shot Libby, Hurley wouldn't have come along like he was supposed to. What kind of crazy stuff would Michael have done in that case?
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what's with that dog?
ones again it felt like the dog is possessed by someone who makes other characters do certain things..
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Is it ever revealed who made the list that was given to Michael? Jacob? The Others (through their conversations with Walt)?
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