2x18 Dave

[hailey]

Lost Rewatch Episode Discussion - Dave

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[hailey]

this is a really good episode.

the scene between locke and benry - why would ben pretend he didnt push the button? what purpose does this serve? to make locke doubt himself? is he just continuing with his manipulation to make locke feel powerless?

i wonder if this episode was written almost as a joke by the writers to throw in a fan theory that this was all happening inside someones mind.

hurley has real mental problems - he has an imaginary friend and almost committed suicide in this episode.

im not sure how someone could say libbys story has been told. it is totally unfair that they arent going to tell us anything else about her. the end of this episode and the other times we see her in flashbacks really leave a lot of questions and it sucks that they will go unanswered.

and hurley gets some action (kiss from libby and a fight with sawyer) - i love it.

[What'sDoneIsDone]

While I agree that Libby's story hasn't been told, I'm not sure that it really needs to be. I'm of the mindset that some questions should be left unanswered. Doing so helps to preserve the mystique of the show.

I'm glad to see some more of my foot/shoe/leg/running motif that I saw a lot of in the first season and a bit in early Season 2.

Oh, and Island Dave is undoubtedly the man I like to call Johny Cash (The Man in Black). He wants Hurley dead. I'm not sure whether that's because Hurley is an obstacle to him, or because he just wants all of them dead.

[Noman]

This episode is way underrated, so sad. Jorge's best performance imo.

[zeus22]

Is it a good time for a Libby rant? So sad, so sad.

Anyway, finding out that Dave was imaginary was definitely one of the biggest mind-blowing moments of the whole series for me. Other than that and the ending with Libby in the institution, this episode didn't do a lot for me. However, I'm still wondering if Ben did push the button or not. I think it's possible that he did not have to push it in order for the timer to flip back to 108 since whoever was manning the station would be trapped inside the doors and would not be able to push it. Thoughts?

[MPVLOST]

Personally, I'm convinced that Ben did push it and he just lied about it.

[zeus22]

Originally Posted by MPVLOST

Personally, I'm convinced that Ben did push it and he just lied about it.

Definitely a possibility. I'm just trying to look at it from every angle. Still think this flashback is way overdue.

[MM0602]

Dave, what a creeper. Not my favourite episode but it's not a bad one. I'm thinking Ben did in fact push the button, he just wanted to mess with Locke (and he succeeded, obviously). Why does Libby avoid Hurley's comments about her seeming familiar so much though? I guess they had some plans for this that they didn't end up being able to get around to, boo.

[guibbs]

zeus, don't fall for Ben mindgames, the swan was made to be operate with two persons, one was always supposed to be inside the computer room, so in case of a lockdown there would be someone there to press the button, Ben did that to undermine Lockes confidence, because he knew Locke was going to replace him as leader of the others, so he was doing what he could to make sure that didn't happen.

[zeus22]

Originally Posted by guibbs

zeus, don't fall for Ben mindgames, the swan was made to be operate with two persons, one was always supposed to be inside the computer room, so in case of a lockdown there would be someone there to press the button, Ben did that to undermine Lockes confidence, because he knew Locke was going to replace him as leader of the others, so he was doing what he could to make sure that didn't happen.

That's a good point that Ethan could have told Ben about he and Locke's meeting at the beachcraft.