2x08 Collision

[MM0602]

Lost Rewatch - Collision

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Collision

First Ana Lucia episode. I have to say, I really liked it on rewatch. The flashbacks were really good and I always liked the scene when Ana kills her shooter. She's a very impulsive person but obviously comes to regret her actions. I like her more than I did before doing this rewatch for sure.

On island stuff is also great. Her and Sayid really connect and it's what saves her from his anger. The Rose/Bernard and Sun/Jin reunions are done so amazingly well! Just imagine what the Sun/Jin reunion next season will be like! And the last shot of Jack and Ana looking at each other on opposite ends of the screen is beautiful and a really cool way of symbolizing the two groups becoming one.

[DharmaVan]

I was surprised to find that I, too, really liked this episode in rewatch despite it being Ana Lucia centric and despite it not having any island mythology. I thought there were a lot of great character interactions throughout: Kate/Jack, Kate/Jack/Sawyer, Ana Lucia/Sayid, Ana Lucia/tailies, Eko/Locke (great chemistry between these two BTW), Eko/Jack, etc.

Favorite funny line from this episode came from Jack who says to Kate, “Nice job. I never learned the whole whisper-in-the-ear thing in med school.”

I thought it was a bit bizarre when Libby says to Ana Lucia, “I just don't think you're the best judge of character. I was with you when you put Nathan in the pit.” What? Previously on “The Other 48 Days” Libby says to Ana, “Back at the beach -- the night they came back -- you said that Nathan was gone for 2 hours? That he was missing? Creeps me out, Ana. Do you really think it's possible that one of us is one of them?” Seems Libby was pretty instrumental in Ana Lucia’s decision to lock Nathan up, huh?

Jack loses his cool AGAIN and wants to go chasing after the tailies with guns.

Sayid touches upon the Destiny theme in regards to whether or not Ana Lucia should kill him when he says, “Should you kill me? Maybe you should. Maybe you were meant to.”

Finally, yes, a great ending: Rose & Bernard reunite, music swells, Sun & Jin reunite, then Jack meets Ana Lucia again.

[MM0602]

Yeah I was also like wtf at Libby when she said that line about Nathan. And yes, how could I forget about Eko and Locke meeting for the first time! Just the look they give each other is awesome. It really is too bad AAA wanted off.

[Noman]

Originally Posted by DharmaVan

I thought it was a bit bizarre when Libby says to Ana Lucia, “I just don't think you're the best judge of character. I was with you when you put Nathan in the pit.” What? Previously on “The Other 48 Days” Libby says to Ana, “Back at the beach -- the night they came back -- you said that Nathan was gone for 2 hours? That he was missing? Creeps me out, Ana. Do you really think it's possible that one of us is one of them?” Seems Libby was pretty instrumental in Ana Lucia’s decision to lock Nathan up, huh?

This has always confused me as well! I always though Libby said "He creeps me out, Ana." but if she omitted the he than perhaps she means that Ana's paranoia creeps her out.

[DharmaVan]

Originally Posted by Noman

This has always confused me as well! I always though Libby said "He creeps me out, Ana." but if she omitted the he than perhaps she means that Ana's paranoia creeps her out.

FYI, I got the dialogue directly from Lostpedia's trascripts of the episode. I do, however, swear she said "He creeps me out" also.

[hailey]

i didnt love this episode, but it had amazing character interactions and was SO well acted!
i understand that ana's backstory here is supposed to show us why she is the way she is, but i really dont buy into it like i do with, say, shannons story.... i think my bias towards ana lucia runs too deep....her scowl just stirs up so much hate in me hahaha.

there were a few really good scenes on the island, and the ending was very cute.... rose and bernard (i love them) and sun and jin reuniting...got me teary....in a good way.

i really liked the scene with sayid and ana when sayid asked why he would kill her when theyre both already dead....and the scene with kate and sawyer...i really did like them as a couple at the time.

[mattepntr]

I'm not an Ana-Lucia hater. Maybe it's because I've seen Michelle Rodriguez in a lot of things, and her character on "Lost" is the best role she's had. She gets to do a lot of things she isn't normally asked to do. Be afraid, be vulnerable. She cries, she laughs. She's doing her usual "tough girl" thing, but she does a lot more as well.

A lot of great moments in this episode, but I like the ending best- Jack and Ana meet again, in circumstances neither one of them could have ever dreamed of. So much horror, humor and irony in that. (And another good example of the black/white, good leader/bad leader themes.

[hailey]

Originally Posted by mattepntr

And another good example of the black/white, good leader/bad leader themes.

actually, if im not mistaken, jack is wearing white and ana is wearing black... interesting.
although its hard to call ana a bad leader....she was just more selfish than jack...but she did try to do what she thought was best.

[mattepntr]

Originally Posted by hailey

actually, if im not mistaken, jack is wearing white and ana is wearing black... interesting.
although its hard to call ana a bad leader....she was just more selfish than jack...but she did try to do what she thought was best.

I'm not sure I agree that Ana is selfish. Ana seems to be the kind of leader you get when there is a significant streak of fear in the "population" (the tailies). Remember her line later on, when she says to Jack "you're not scared enough". (paraphrasing)
It seems that toward the end of this episode, the surviving tailes are almost held hostage by her.
She becomes reactionary, and a strict authoritarian, almost a dictator. For her, all solutions to the law and order problem flow from the barrel of a gun.

Truth is, given the circumstances the tailies were dealing with, I can't say she was really wrong. But, like Jack, she didn't know when to let go, to back down. She didn't know when force WASN'T necessary.
Funny thing is, when she joins the fuselage survivors, she seems to lose all her authority, she becomes kind of invisible. Kind of like a shell-shocked soldier during a cease-fire. She doesn't know what to do with herself.

[hailey]

ok i think maybe selfish was the wrong word....but im not sure what the right word is.

what i mean is her whole "us vs. them" mentality that shows strongly when the tailies travel back with michael, jin and sawyer to the lostie beach...she is always saying "why help them", "he wouldnt do this for you", etc.

where jack would do whatever he could to save pretty much anyone...hero complexed as he is.