2x01 - Man of Science, Man of Faith

[MM0602]

I think 3-4 episodes a week is perfect! Besides, keep in mind it's so it works out that we have a shorter wait in January

I wish I could erase my memory of Lost and watch the opening of this episode again! That and season 3 are amazing. I hope next season starts with something like this.

Incredible premiere, I think we can all agree... I love how we see different parts of the hatch first from Desmond's POV, then Jack, then Locke/Kate in the next episode. And once more, another unexplained Walt mystery! I really hope he's back next year!

[Whisperer]

I remember the first time I saw this episode... it blew me away, it's so great. I have to admit that I didn't expect anyone to be living in the hatch. The best part is that it is Desmond, one of my favs. Too bad we don't get to see very much of him for most of season 2.

I would think that in explaining the whispers, which I am taking the risk of assuming they are going to explain, they would explain Walt appearing soaking wet and whispering.

[saxon. the don.]

Originally Posted by gmoney4815

Heh, this rewatch has really petered out, hasn't it? Sad, really. I figured momentum would be high, but summer would affect "viewership". This probably would have been more effective later in the year, Sept. Or Oct. By this time, school is back in session, more people get out of the cold, and by Dec. The season5 dvds would be out, helping more people.
Anyway, great opening as we hear the boom, see the guns, and our minds quickly melt. Omg there's a guy down there! And that's before we know about the button. Also, every Jack-Locke scene is gold, and this is no different. I believe this moment, besides the Boone tragedy, is what makes Jack feel pre-empted a little and resentful of Locke, which culminate in pointing that gun at Locke in season4 and sttempting to kill him. Good episode.

well I think most people who were participating probably have already passed this episode
and a lot of people probably didn't even bother rewatching because many of us have seen the series so many times already

then there is also jodi's more interesting thread

I just rewatched this a few days ago though, so it's still fresh in my mind. I hated having to see the same scene from two or 3 different points of view over the course of 3 episodes... they REALLY stretched out that first scene. it drove me crazy the third or fourth time watching it. I felt like I was watching a soap opera. glad they stopped doing that toward the end of S3. season 2 seemed to have so much stalling and teasing and very little actual reward.

[DharmaVan]

My wife is watching Lost for the first time with me as I go through the rewatch. That's making it a lot of fun. She seemingly missed that the intro was actually inside the hatch and thought it was a flashback scene of perhaps Sawyer.

It was great later on when Jack is poking around the desolate, rusty, drippy hatch and suddenly the white light comes on, the Mama Cass song kicks in, and the computer tapes are spinning maniacally. My wife is like WTF!!!

Great to see a new viewer experience lost for the first time. Priceless.

[DharmaVan]

Things I liked/noticed in this episode:

1. I agree this was a great season opening. It was neat to see the retro 70's look of Desmond's abode with the lava lamp, vinyl LP record collection, turntable, etc. after having experienced Dharmaville in the Season 5 time travel. The quarantined Swan hatch got stuck in the 70's due to a near total lack of communication with the outside world.
2. One for the reset theorists (of which I am not): The scene with Locke at the hatch and Kate enters to say, "I expected to find you half way down there by now." and Locke answers with his creepy grin, "I was waiting for you." as if he's been through this before.
3. Locke using Kate as a guinea pig by having her go down the hatch was reminicsent of Locke sending Boone up the cliff and into the Beechcraft.
4. The foreshadowing during the Tour de Stade when Desmond states that he was almost a doctor once and Jack replies, "Small world." - little does he (or the viewer at this point in the episode) know...
5. Liked the way they show Desmond (unknown at this point in the episode) type on the computer keyboard (without showing him actually typing the numbers) and then hearing the counter flapping/reseting (without showing it flip) - the writers (Damon Lindelof) are such a tease!

[Dr. Chameleon]

Originally Posted by CameraOne

The Season 2 and Season 3 premieres were very much parallels introducing you to a new character in a setting that seems off-island but is really on-island. It's too bad they broke the pattern with Season 4's underwhelming first scene. I like Hurley but a shocking Freighter people reveal would have been cooler. They tried to go back to this for Season 5, though, which is good, but not as good as this one or Juliet's opener.

I watched this episode last night and was also thinking about how mindblowing this was, especially the opening scene, and how they've lost a lot of those wonderfully creative, bizarre, shocking qualities (Eloise declaring that she's Daniel's mother -- not a shocker, despite what the music cue meant you to feel).

For me, the second half of season three still had that in spades (e.g. the trip to Jacob's cabin, Room 23), but it's been mostly lost since.

Part of it is that they're rushing through the story now and throwing curveballs that are generally less emotional and exciting, just sort of baffling. We've lost that exploratory aspect of the show. The Swan station is a great set, far more interesting and mysterious than New Otherton, and they take time showing Jack's first impressions of it (granted, they needed to pay it off for the viewer in spades due to the s.1 cliffhanger, so other parts of the island didn't call for that much loving attention from the camera). But we were still excited (okay, *I* was) to have new areas revealed throughout season three, and after that, sure, we got the Tempest and the Orchid, but they were brief, and the frozen donkey wheel was pretty uninspiring.

It may be in part do the shortened seasons, but I'm also not sure they're casting people as creepy and mysterious as, say, Ben or Ethan: Keamy was just a goon, and they're going to have to show Mark Pellegrino do something pretty drastic before Jacob will carry as much weight as he's supposed to. I was a little let down by the reveal in "The Incident," but I'm hoping there's more to it/him.

Sorry, this is way off topic, but I think that's part of the point of the rewatch, to look at all of this again in light of what we know now.

[Noman]

^ Faraday being in the s5 premier and, "always nice talking to you Jacob." beg to differ.

[Jack&KatePlusEight]

I'm surprised no one's mentioned this, but I LOVE the song Make Your Own Kind Of Music! I have the legally downloaded version from iTunes on my iPod! (MAMA CASS ROCKS!)

[Lost Fan 4815162342]

Until Henry Gale/Ben Linus showed up to blow our minds on a regular basis, the opening scene of this episode was my all-time favorite vignette. And as scenes in a show go, it still is great. It not only blew our minds, it fed them.

The photography, camera work, music, the slice of life in the hatch details were just plain beautiful on their own and then to find the first time around what it was was just choice TV viewing, and the beauty part is, it has never worn out on me.

Every time I watch it, I just love it. It's shot so well. I just love watching the milkshake powder as it falls into the blender with the eggs. I used to watch this ep just for the opening scene, even if I didn't continue on.

I miss the good old days of the hatch when it was just new. Also seeing the ladder broken and realizing when that happened puts a little different spin on it.

Both MOS/MOF and Adrift are just wonderful for the hatch scenes, and all the mystery and depth it added to the show.

[Dr. Chameleon]

Originally Posted by Noman

^ Faraday being in the s5 premier and, "always nice talking to you Jacob." beg to differ.

I'll give you Jacob -- I was not expecting the sort of Jacob-centric aspect of "The Incident" -- of course it ony raised as many questions as it answered...for me the s.5 premiere didn't have that much surprise impact. Minor quibble, though. I'm just reeeeallly hoping s.6 doesn't let me down.