1x03 Tabula Rasa

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Thread for discussion of The Lost Rewatch - Tabula Rasa

[Anfield Fox]

Still think this is the best Kate centric. Both the island and flashback story were engaging as the survivors come to terms with their new life. Funny how goofy Hurley was in these early episodes when he is getting the water or passing out at the sight of the Marshal's blood, etc.

Loved it when Sawyer shot Edward and missed

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Originally Posted by Anfield Fox

Still think this is the best Kate centric. Both the island and flashback story were engaging as the survivors come to terms with their new life. Funny how goofy Hurley was in these early episodes when he is getting the water or passing out at the sight of the Marshal's blood, etc.

Loved it when Sawyer shot Edward and missed

yes, all the characters are weird in the first few episodes. its really weird to see hurley and kate interact for the first time. and yes sawyer missing is awesome.

[Citic]

yeah.. hurley passing out was soo funny..

kate really did look bad ass in her mug shot to..

[IAMCHARLIESGRANDFATHER]

Originally Posted by Anfield Fox

Still think this is the best Kate centric. Both the island and flashback story were engaging as the survivors come to terms with their new life. Funny how goofy Hurley was in these early episodes when he is getting the water or passing out at the sight of the Marshal's blood, etc.

Loved it when Sawyer shot Edward and missed

I really dont think Sawyer missing is funny. He could kill any one and I would still love him.

[BobW]

As for Kate, I don't think the writers knew what her crime was at this point. Thus the marshall constantly making it sound like she was some kind of female Hannibal Lecter or something.

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Originally Posted by BobW

As for Kate, I don't think the writers knew what her crime was at this point. Thus the marshall constantly making it sound like she was some kind of female Hannibal Lecter or something.

exactly. because her killing her abusive father, isn't really a threat to anyone else.

[ConstantVariable]

One of the things I enjoyed the most about Season 5 was Sawyer's emergence as the leader of those left behind, especially after Locke left the island. Unencumbered by the need for revenge and coupled with someone who truly has his back, Sawyer has bloomed into the kind of quiet hero Jack could never be. Sawyer also has an appreciation for the cold, hard facts and truths about life that Jack doesn't grasp, for instance, that wasting precious resources on someone who isn't going to survive lessens the survival chances of the entire group, as we see him so stubbornly do in Tabula Rasa.

-Ray Mullen says he is a lefty, since his right arm is gone. In Latin, the language of the Others, the word for left(hand) is sinistra, and that evolved into the English word sinister, which has come to mean evil, ominous or unlucky. Ray turned out to be fairly unlucky for Kate, as it was his call to the Marshal (for a $23,000 reward) that led to her arrest and subsquent crash on Mystery Island. Side Note: The other two armless ones on the Island: Montand, the member of Rousseau's science team, and Pierre Chang, also known as Dr. Marvin Candle in the Swan Orientation video. Both of them lost their left arms, which makes them righties. Does that make them the opposite of sinister?

-Ray's place is lousy with The Numbers. His wife died 8 months ago, the closest town is 15 Kilometers away, he turns Kate in for 23,000 dollars (American?)

-Charlie makes a new fingertape, replacing the 'F' in Fate with an 'L' for Late. How unintentionally prohetic of him.

-Another stretch for Numbers: When Jack looks at Kate's mugshots, the plaque she is holding up says Harrison Valley Police and the numbers 61136.

6+1+1+3+6=17
1+7=8

Ta Da.

[whiskeyJim]

Observations:

1. The Pilots especially and S1 pop much better than S2-4. I believe that's because the writing really did falter while they stalled through the years and really went nowhere in a lot of throwaway episodes. This is definitely a story rather than an open ended, episodic series, and the characters are much clearer in the first season. By season 5, Sawyer, Jack, Kate and Juliet all suffer from plot abuse.
2. Locke is more isolated right from the beginning than I remembered. He really cares nothing for the rest of the castaways. He is totally enthralled with his spiritual trek. He just sits on the beach for a few days waiting for destiny to come to him, then decides he will be the hunter. Then he meets the Smoke Monster, and they both like what they see. It's a scene that carries great foreboding for Locke for the rest of the series. He may not even have killed that first boar; it looks like the Smoke Monster did it for him.
3. I hardly remembered that if it weren't for Jack, half the crew wouldn't be there even 5 episodes in. Some have already mentioned that Jack is doing too much. Respectfully, you must remember that everyone still thought rescue was on its way; much too early to go into cold hearted survival mode.
4. The Smoke Monster approaches and kills the pilot just as he is trying to use the transponder. Later, Boone only loses his life when he tries to use the radio up in the drug plane. Looks like active prevention to leave.

Originally Posted by ConstantVariable

One of the things I enjoyed the most about Season 5 was Sawyer's emergence as the leader of those left behind, especially after Locke left the island. Unencumbered by the need for revenge and coupled with someone who truly has his back, Sawyer has bloomed into the kind of quiet hero Jack could never be. Sawyer also has an appreciation for the cold, hard facts and truths about life that Jack doesn't grasp, for instance, that wasting precious resources on someone who isn't going to survive lessens the survival chances of the entire group, as we see him so stubbornly do in Tabula Rasa.

I am still perplexed by how many people hate Jack. I can not identify with this paragraph. First, Jack is being disrespected for helping people who he thought would be rescued by the mainland. Second, Sawyer was not a leader; he was a mid-level Manager of Security who checks stinking badges for a DI he knows will eventually bring great harm. Hiding in such an organization would be the last thing a leader would do. Sawyer will never be a leader; he's just not as dumb as Hurley. BTW, I am not trying to begin a debate about it. I realize I will never convince the Jack haters all over the internet

[LotteryTicket]

Fake, false Locke. fLocke

The very last scene in TR pans to fLocke on the beach. Listen. You will hear Smokey. You will see S5 fFLocke.

I am in the camp that Locke died and was reborn AGAIN. He is sometimes inhabited by Man In Black (MIB), sometimes not. Don't ask me to explain.