04x02- "Confirmed Dead" (Questions, Theories, Discussion)

[webbarr]

Guys, I could be wrong but was there any information in the flashback to suggest that it was actually a flashback? Could it be a flash forward in which the Oceanic crash is found in the ocean following the new characters' departure from the island? My mind is a bit fuzzy but I don't recall any dates or anything that indicated this was prior to them going to the island

[Dharma Ranch Dressing]

Originally Posted by OceanicSix815

I've definitely wondered that.


Also, can someone tell me if it's been confirmed that the powder is keeping Jacob trapped? Or is that still just a theory

Not confirmed, but very likely. I think Darlton acknowledged it in a podcast but never elaborated why it was there.

[Blackadder]

Originally Posted by Dharma Ranch Dressing

I haven't had a chance to really read everything on this thread, hope this hasn't been mentioned too much: but does anyone else think that Ben was NOT lying when he said he didn't know about the smoke monster?

No, I think you're right. I believe the smoke monster, whatever it is, was probably there before DHARMA or the Hostiles and none of them probably really understands it. Did you see how much it kills Ben to have to admit he doesn't know something?

[Rodo]

I said this in one of the other threads. There are parts of it that make me definitely feel it was a FF.

[lostaddict12]

Yeah I think Ben really doesn't know.

[Dharma Ranch Dressing]

Originally Posted by webbarr

Guys, I could be wrong but was there any information in the flashback to suggest that it was actually a flashback? Could it be a flash forward in which the Oceanic crash is found in the ocean following the new characters' departure from the island? My mind is a bit fuzzy but I don't recall any dates or anything that indicated this was prior to them going to the island

If you buy into the time travel theory that is on the first couple of pages of posts on the Main Forum, then it definitely could be a Flash Forward. We're definitely meant to think it was a FB, however. WHo knows at this point...

[OceanicSix815]

Originally Posted by webbarr

Guys, I could be wrong but was there any information in the flashback to suggest that it was actually a flashback? Could it be a flash forward in which the Oceanic crash is found in the ocean following the new characters' departure from the island? My mind is a bit fuzzy but I don't recall any dates or anything that indicated this was prior to them going to the island

I can't say for sure, but my assumption is that it was a flashback because when Frank realized it wasn't the pilot and called that hotline...he looked like he was shocked and had just come to a realization that it might not be the real plane. If it was a flash forward, he wouldn't think much of it because he obviously already knows there are survivors and the plane didn't land on a trench because he's been on the island.

Don't know if that made any sense, but it's the way i look at it.

[phoenixautumn]

Originally Posted by kc_09

It also seems odd that they would have broadcast the remains of the 'pilot' of flight 815...like perhaps they wanted someone to recognize that it wasn't real.

They would never broadcast footage of a corpse on TV.

[Locke N Load]

Originally Posted by kc_09

Also, the footage we see at the beginning of the episode really seems like whoever those explorers were, actually did stumble on to the wreckage - as if there really is a tangible "815" down there

I think it needed to be filmed that way to be plausible for media release. There going to extreme lengths to control how it all unfolds.

[lostaddict12]

I think it was definitely FB...I think Frank got on the team because he called the hotline for noticing that it was fake.